My Neofinetia story, with a hokage in flower

[RandomGemini]

Oh, I can also write Kanji. I took a year of Japanese in college.

[MattWoelfsen]

Originally Posted by RandomGemini

Oh, I can also write Kanji. I took a year of Japanese in college.

You've come to the right place on the Orchid Board! This sub forum is where I found great folks like Dries, coffeecup, Red Ginger, Rangiku, Joyorchid, pilot, and last but not least Jayfar! call-me-Bob, s.kallima, jeremiahchua. Once in awhile, DelawareJim pops in, long time poster--I'm missing several people--but you'll find a lot of information.

[kentaki]

Originally Posted by rangiku

Nishidemiyako 西出都 also means west side of the capitol (Kyoto) back when Kyoto, not Tokyo, was the capitol. Higishidemiyako 東出都 means east side of the capitol (Kyoto).

I have always thought these names are weird, but the phrase "西出都" is a part of a very famous Chinese poem "長恨歌" by 白居易 (Bai Juyi).
From Japanese Wikipedia (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%95%...%A8%E6%AD%8C):
翠華搖搖行復止、西出都門百餘里
I am not going to translate the first part, but the latter part means "It is over 100 miles west of the capital gate."

Remember, these were supposedly grown by rich and noble people? Many of them were "cultured," and familiar with both Chinese and Japanese literature. This is a reason that direct translation may not work in many cases. Myself isn't all that cultured, and found this out after Googling.

As for "東出都," it is probably like a word play. "西出都" was found in Kyoto Prefecture, and "東出都" in Shiga Prefecture. Yes, these names are general reference to where they were found, but current translation for these sound bit surreal or even absurd.

[rangiku]

Matt, you forgot Tracy!!!!! Gomen nasai, Tracy-san!

[MattWoelfsen]

Originally Posted by rangiku

Matt, you forgot Tracy!!!!! Gomen nasai, Tracy-san!

I knew I would forget someone! Thank you Adrienne! TRACY--she of longevity and very knowledgeable. I wonder what happened to gmdiaz and shekai? They spent a lot of time with the stickies posted above all other threads.

[Red Orchid]

Originally Posted by kentaki

I have always thought these names are weird, but the phrase "西出都" is a part of a very famous Chinese poem "長恨歌" by 白居易 (Bai Juyi).
From Japanese Wikipedia (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%95%...%A8%E6%AD%8C):
翠華搖搖行復止、西出都門百餘里
I am not going to translate the first part, but the latter part means "It is over 100 miles west of the capital gate."

Remember, these were supposedly grown by rich and noble people? Many of them were "cultured," and familiar with both Chinese and Japanese literature. This is a reason that direct translation may not work in many cases. Myself isn't all that cultured, and found this out after Googling.

As for "東出都," it is probably like a word play. "西出都" was found in Kyoto Prefecture, and "東出都" in Shiga Prefecture. Yes, these names are general reference to where they were found, but current translation for these sound bit surreal or even absurd.

I love the work you've done researching the language we learn so much just from the name. Matt is another one of our researchers he posts good stuff as well. Tracy holds the knowledge as well and a beautiful collection of Neos. This place rocks with Neo info, enthusiasm and your collection will grow.

[dries666]

Originally Posted by MattWoelfsen

Proceed with extreme caution! Dries' plants are beautiful examples of Neofinetia. His photography and staging of his plants are designed with great attention. His pots, all the way down to his meticulous calligraphy are designed to entice and lure you into the.......(dodododododo, twang!) Neofinetia zone.

Please Matt, that's way too much ! compared to the other people growing neofinetia's on this board I am merely an amateur grower... and I still need to figure out their ideal growing conditions in my new home, it's quite limited towards light and proper temperature. Just last week I noticed the fresh moss holds quite a lot of moisture and I have had never any difficulties with this, but for some reason the nishidemiyako and hisui showed some white fluffy fungal bodies on their older roots and leafremnants!! Me in big panic and I quickly sought for something against fungal infections and sprayed it on. I never had this before and my other plants don't have it, so I'll have to watch them carefully for the next winter. And for the kanji, I am only able to read some of them, like shutennou is the only one that I know all kanji from. I just looked them up at the seed engei site and other for the correct kanji .

But one thing is true, on this board u can find all sorts of tips from so many amazing people growing them theirselves... and they eagerly solve all your questions .

greetz,
Dries

[RandomGemini]

I'll be spending a lot of time reading this forum, before I get my first neo. I am hooked though. I love miniatures. I love window sill growing, but I can't do a lot of that where I am, because well... let's just put it this way, sunrise is at 7:30 and sunset is at 4 pm today. Our shortest day is coming up pretty fast and we will only have 8 hours of daylight.

There was a really lovely one at the silent auction I went to last week. It had white flowers with just a hint of pink and the smell... OMG... if they bottled and sold that, it would be my favorite perfume! I should have bid on it, but hubby made me promise not to come home with anymore orchids. I was supposed to be there for the speaker.

Since I like my hubby and my marriage, I decided it was best not to test the waters.

[rangiku]

RandomGemini, I grow on my windowsills with the same lighting conditions as you have. I'm sure you will do just fine.

[kentaki]

Originally Posted by Red Orchid

another one of our researchers

Researchers?