Strange Fugaku

[Dagobell]

Hi there fellow neofinetia friends. A forum member published this Picture of an fugaku, it's an variable form but I asked if I could publish the Picture here and ask you what you think, has it morphed?

//Regards

[MattWoelfsen]

Originally Posted by Dagobell

Hi there fellow neofinetia friends. A forum member published this Picture of an fugaku, it's an variable form but I asked if I could publish the Picture here and ask you what you think, has it morphed?

Hello Dagobell, morphed? Are you referring to the tiger striping of the plant's leaves? I haven't owned Neos for a long time, but the tiger stripped Neos I own seem to becoming less green and more gold/white stripped. They are growing in very bright but indirect light. Here is a Fugaku I hope to own. Reading about it, I see advice stating that the leaves will become greener in lower light levels.

[coffeecup]

I Googled Fugaku and found it can have very varied variegation and can change from growth to growth. It could just be typical Fugaku habit rather than it morphing.

[Jayfar]

Originally Posted by MattWoelfsen

Here is a Fugaku I hope to own. Reading about it, I see advice stating that the leaves will become greener in lower light levels.

The one you're bidding on has much better, more variegation than mine. Don't worry though, I'm not bidding on it.

[Dagobell]

Beatiful specimen Matt. It's a funny variant being so diverse in colour/ variegation. Anyone knows if fugaku can morph into another form, and if wich?

[MattWoelfsen]

Originally Posted by Dagobell

Beatiful specimen Matt. It's a funny variant being so diverse in colour/ variegation. Anyone knows if fugaku can morph into another form, and if wich?

I wish it were mine Dagobell! Full Disclosure, the picture I posted above is from E-Bay, Seed Engei was auctioning this plant. It finally went for US$92. Your friend's plant is beautiful. When I am looking for a picture of a potential acquisition, I do a lot of searching on the internet to get information on that plant. This Fugaku that was up for auction was the best picture I could find. Seed Engei states that this plant has a couple of variants, "Fugaku has spread striped variegation called Chiri-fu*. It gives us soft image because this stripe looks vaguer than normal stripe. Wide-Hime-ba* is very appreciable to see. *chiri-fu (spread stripe pattern) * Hime-ba ( Curvy leaf shape)."

In other statements describing Neofinetia, Seed Engei often advices that these plants can only be given its name to describe it, but actual form, i.e., the plant itself may display a degree of variation. This is why neos are a fascinating plant, each one is truly unique. Your friend's plant looks likea Fugaku and it will always be a Fugaku BUT it may 'morph' into something else that might resemble a Hime-ba or a chiri-fu type plant. That is my understanding, hopefully someone like Jeremiah or Ryan, Jayfar or other Neointeligentsians can opine!

[Jayfar]

Originally Posted by MattWoelfsen

I wish it were mine Dagobell! Full Disclosure, the picture I posted above is from E-Bay, Seed Engei was auctioning this plant. It finally went for US$92. Your friend's plant is beautiful. When I am looking for a picture of a potential acquisition, I do a lot of searching on the internet to get information on that plant. This Fugaku that was up for auction was the best picture I could find. Seed Engei states that this plant has a couple of variants, "Fugaku has spread striped variegation called Chiri-fu*. It gives us soft image because this stripe looks vaguer than normal stripe. Wide-Hime-ba* is very appreciable to see. *chiri-fu (spread stripe pattern) * Hime-ba ( Curvy leaf shape)."

In other statements describing Neofinetia, Seed Engei often advices that these plants can only be given its name to describe it, but actual form, i.e., the plant itself may display a degree of variation. This is why neos are a fascinating plant, each one is truly unique. Your friend's plant looks likea Fugaku and it will always be a Fugaku BUT it may 'morph' into something else that might resemble a Hime-ba or a chiri-fu type plant. That is my understanding, hopefully someone like Jeremiah or Ryan, Jayfar or other Neointeligentsians can opine!

The chiri-fu is a reference to the type of variegation (I see it elsewhere as chirihu) and himeba is reference to the leaf shape, so these are just characteristics of Fugaku, rather than fukiran Neo variant names. I have a hard time following the descriptions in some of Seed Engei's ebay descriptions; I think they get a little fuzzy in translation from Japanese sometimes.

Pasting in one reference I had posted in another thread, which lists the names of many of the leaf shapes and types of variegation:

DEMYSTIFYING THE ORIGIN OF NEOFINETIA FALCATA. Part 1 - THOMAS JOSEPH MULHOLLAN, M.D., Orchid Digest, July, Aug, Sept 2004.

See pages 5-11 of the linked pdf:

http://www.glvos.com/Newsletters/New...VOS/2-5-06.pdf

Unfortunately, the copy in their newsletter appears to be missing a couple pages of the original article.

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Originally Posted by MattWoelfsen

I wish it were mine Dagobell! Full Disclosure, the picture I posted above is from E-Bay, Seed Engei was auctioning this plant. It finally went for US$92.

I was rooting for you too, but, yes, I saw the outcome of the auction. Another poster here was going back and forth with you in the late bidding, but in only the last 8 seconds 2 other bidders came out of the woodwork and one of them scooped it up. Darn it Matt, if I knew you were gonna lose, I would have bid a C note. That is a really nice one.

Neofinetia Falcata Japaneseorchid Stripe Variety So Beautiful Fugaku

A good strategy is to bid only in the final seconds with a high max bid. You only pay the max bid amount if the others bid high too.

Unfortunately, last night was one of those rare instances where my max bid was excercised and has me paying a bit more than I wanted to (the aformentioned C note). Ka-ching! But it is a nice one and probably worth it.

Neofinetia Falcata White Tiger Stripe Ruby Roots Japaneseorchid Homeiden

[Pilot]

Originally Posted by Jayfar

DEMYSTIFYING THE ORIGIN OF NEOFINETIA FALCATA. Part 1 - THOMAS JOSEPH MULHOLLAN, M.D., Orchid Digest, July, Aug, Sept 2004.

See pages 5-11 of the linked pdf:

http://www.glvos.com/Newsletters/New...VOS/2-5-06.pdf

Unfortunately, the copy in their newsletter appears to be missing a couple pages of the original article.[COLOR="Silver"]

Yah know, I was reading this and on page 131, they show all the parts of the plant, including the leaf attachments.... and I am completely unable to see the differences in these things. LOL Maybe if it were not a scanned copy or in color I would? But they all look like black, thick lines to me.

[s.kallima]

Pilot, you can see on this picture I made last year the different tsuke (leaf attachment):

There is also this thread where we talked about it
Tsuke

The one they call Month in Orchid digest is a mistake, it is called Moon crescent, it is the regular curved line

[Pilot]

Originally Posted by s.kallima

Pilot, you can see on this picture I made last year the different tsuke (leaf attachment):

There is also this thread where we talked about it
Tsuke

The one they call Month in Orchid digest is a mistake, it is called Moon crescent, it is the regular curved line

ok...now THAT makes sense and the shapes actually show up. Thank you!