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10-22-2008, 12:11 AM
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They are both very nice sites, indeed!
This japanese blog contains alot of wonderful pictures of different Neofinetia plants: http://blog.goo.ne.jp/fuuranzannmai
Not many pictures of the flowers though. But its by far the largest Neo collection I have ever seen (just got new pictures up of it I see )
FengLan Index Contains more flower pictures
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Did you guys see this one in the Fenglan Index? Is it really a Neo?? It's freakin' fabulous!
FengLan : 风兰新品种 - *名
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10-22-2008, 12:56 AM
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According to the site's Chinese name, it is called "no name". I think it is an unnamed wind orchid since it is listed on the FengLan (wind orchid) site.
Neofinetia falcata is a species name of wind orchids (Furkiran or Furan) ref. Neofinetia falcata -- samurai orchid
So, I think it is neo (unnamed).
Please correct it if I am wrong.
Hau
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10-22-2008, 01:04 AM
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Oop! Yes the site states that it is new knid of wind orchids. Anyway, I think it is somewhat odd......(did you guys see the spirder web between the leaves?)
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10-22-2008, 11:19 AM
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According to the site's Chinese name, it is called "no name". I think it is an unnamed wind orchid since it is listed on the FengLan (wind orchid) site.
Neofinetia falcata is a species name of wind orchids (Furkiran or Furan) ref. Neofinetia falcata -- samurai orchid
So, I think it is neo (unnamed).
Please correct it if I am wrong.
Hau
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Hau,
The site does say "fenglan" however, some of the pictures on the bottom row are of Sedirea japonica (Aerides japonicum). So, I'm not sure that they are all pictures of Neofinetia.
Since you can read Chinese....
Fenglan is the chinese translation of Fuuran, which as you already know means "wind orchid"
Do you speak cantonese or mandarin?
Fuukiran is the japanese word for "rich & noble orchid".
Translated to cantonese it is:
Foo = rich
kway = noble
lan = orchid
All Fuukiran are Fuuran but not all Fuuran are Fuukiran. Only Fuuran that are appreciated for their unique traits are given Fuukiran status.
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10-22-2008, 04:39 PM
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Does anyone have a list (english please ) of the varieties given the fuukiran status?
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10-23-2008, 12:29 AM
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Does anyone have a list (english please ) of the varieties given the fuukiran status?
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Anders, I don't know if there is a comprehensive list that gives all the accurate translations online. New World Orchids sells a Japanese fuukiran book that lists 315 varieties and they have all the Kanji names translated into the Japanese names written in English. The spellings may vary on some names but for the most part it is accurate. This is the most extensive list I know of.
You probably already know that everything in the Meikan is given registered fuukiran status. There are fuukiran that are not on the Meikan and others that may not be registered yet too.
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10-23-2008, 07:49 PM
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Hau,
The site does say "fenglan" however, some of the pictures on the bottom row are of Sedirea japonica (Aerides japonicum). So, I'm not sure that they are all pictures of Neofinetia.
Since you can read Chinese....
Fenglan is the chinese translation of Fuuran, which as you already know means "wind orchid"
Do you speak cantonese or mandarin?
Fuukiran is the japanese word for "rich & noble orchid".
Translated to cantonese it is:
Foo = rich
kway = noble
lan = orchid
All Fuukiran are Fuuran but not all Fuuran are Fuukiran. Only Fuuran that are appreciated for their unique traits are given Fuukiran status.
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Hi LinhT,
Thanks for the information. I speak Cantonese. I have confused....
I guess Neofinetia falcata is the species name of Fuuran (probably wrong).
As I know Sedirea japonica that is a kind of Fuurans. We are called them "big leaves wind orchids" in Chinese. So what are the relationships between Neo and Fuukiran?
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10-24-2008, 03:24 PM
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Hau,
Neo. falcata is INDEED the species name of fuuran. As far as I know, Sedirea japonica is a different species and not referred to as a fuuran, but maybe I'm wrong. As you know, Neo. falcata has MANY different varieties with each having one or more unique characteristics for which they are prized for. All Neo. falcata are technically fuuran or "wind orchids". The fuuran with the unique characteristics are referred to as "fuukiran". This just means that the "special" types of fuuran are called "orchids of the rich and noble" (fuukiran). I hope this is not too confusing
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10-24-2008, 04:01 PM
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LinhT you are right, Neofinetia falcata is the plant called Fuuran in japanese & Sedirea japonica is a different species from a different genus, and is known as Nagoran in japanese (Nago being a place, I think a city, in Japan)
you see that several japanes orchids have the particle "Ran" in their names, and it just mean "Orchid":
Fuuran / Fuukiran = Neo. falcata
Nagoran = Sedirea japonica
Gansekiran = it's a Phaius, but do not remember which
Kashinokiran = Gastrochillus japonicus
Mukaderan = Cleisostoma scolopendrifolium
Chouseiran = Dendrobium moniliformes
Kanran = Cymbidium kanran
Shunran = Cymbidium goeringii
Shiran = Bletilla striata
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10-24-2008, 07:20 PM
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Thanks the information from all. Yes Nago is a Japanese city. Sedirea japonica is called Nagoran since it was first found in that city, of course other countries would call it different names.
Does anybody know the mature size of Seikai? I got one yesterday, mine is pretty tiny, only half inch wide and height. Just wonder need how long to flower.
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