Neo experts, help me with possible ID

[LinhT]

Hmm...the search goes on, then! Lucky, I heard about that catalog from Seed Engei and have been wanting to get one for some time. Will I have to get it on ebay?? Are they under the seller name "Japanese orchids" or something like that? Does it say how many fuuran are listed in that book?

[shakkai]

Have a look again at Fugaku. Here's a link showing two different plants that illustrates just how variable the striping and colour can be on it.

Fugaku, Variable striped leaves

I might even have one here that looks similar to your's....

[gmdiaz]

Originally Posted by luckygrower

LinhT,
Thanks for your time for researching this and giving me a place to start my own research.
I looked up Higashidemiyako in my book,it's called Japanese Orchids and was puchased from Seed Engei, and my NOID has two very different traits than Higashidemiyako.
1. The leaves are a lighter green than the picture in my book.
2. My book says Higashidemiyako has mud brown roots, mine has green root tips.





I would be honored if Gwen named it, but after it flowers so that she has more info to give it a proper name.



Becca,
Your wecome, I'm more than happy to help when ever I can.

If we can't figure it out. . .or get one of our friends to figure it out, after it flowers, we'll get your Neo. a name! Something grande and wild, a name to live up to!

[luckygrower]

I've done a little more research and think it resembles Tenkeifukurin, but my green is more yellowish.

Shakkai,
Your Fugaku is lovely,but my green is not as bright it has more of a yellow wash.

In my research I found 8 different leaf variegation's, mine resembles most closely to one called chirihushima.

[LinhT]

If that is, indeed, Tenkei, then you've lived up to your name, Luckygrower! I have Tenkei but it looks different from yours. It's not one of the "soil your pants" expensive ones but you're typically looking at around $50 - $60 for a one growth division and around $100 for a 2 growth. It's definitely a nice one to add to a neo collection.

[shakkai]

My Tenkei (and the other ones ones I have here) are all a nice contrast dark green against white. I will see if I can get some photos and do a thread on Tenkei.

[luckygrower]

The contrast between the green and yellow is the problem in my search, all the photo's I can find show a definite contrast in the leaves but mine has a more mottled look.
I have only 2 for sure traits that I can use for my search,
1. Jiku (stem) Doro-jiku/mud brown
2. Ne (roots) Ao-ne/green

[shakkai]

What light levels are you growing this in? That could/would have an effect on the contrast.

[luckygrower]

Light levels for this plant, which are the same for most of my Neo's,are low by my standards at 1500 ft candles. The other Neo's, that I have had longer, that are growing in the same area,are a darker green, even the varigated ones.
I have not had this for very long and do not know the light levels that the original owner was growing in. I thought low light levels caused dark green leaves and I've been trying to darkin the leaves to make it easier to id this one, but maybe I'm doing it wrong, should it be in higher light?

[shakkai]

Contrary to what I would have thought, I was told that higher light levels increase the variegation. I thought, like you that lower light would give a darker green, and hence a stronger contrast.

That said, as you don't know how the plant was growing before you got it, I would leave it as you have it and see what happens for a time.

Here are two Fugaku that I have here for comparison.





These are grown in a bright-ish West facing windowsill. Probably 1500-2000 fc. in the summer. I am sure that the lighter new growths will darken with age. especially as we only get just over 8 hours of daylight in the winter here.