Bean Leaf Neofinetia (Mameba)

[Hakumin]

No problem---

Guigeumgang/kamekongo uses the same last two characters as tamakongo, the first character means turtle. A bit of a stretch, but the translation would be "Turtle Vajra"

The second one, guihwa/kagaribi means bonfire.

Also, since you're into the korean references, here's a website to look through. Click through the links at the left.

http://blog.daum.net/okokooo/8480223

[another.one]

Originally Posted by Hakumin

No problem---

Guigeumgang/kamekongo uses the same last two characters as tamakongo, the first character means turtle. A bit of a stretch, but the translation would be "Turtle Vajra"

The second one, guihwa/kagaribi means bonfire.

Also, since you're into the korean references, here's a website to look through. Click through the links at the left.

http://blog.daum.net/okokooo/8480223

Dare I say it? I love you~ Thanks so much! A greater reason for me to go and learn all the Chinese characters. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

[vjo]

Hakumin, thank you for posting that link, I know that I would never have found it on my own. What lovely pictures, those mounts are wonderful. I wonder how many of us will be out soon looking for interesting rocks and driftwood to try our hand at something like that. I would be out today but it is snowing so it will have to wait.
Thank you again....Jean

[MattWoelfsen]

Originally Posted by Hakumin

Going by the name in the broken URL, it looks like this is the first referenced in the links. (Now i want one...dammit)

Korean name is Guigeumgang or Gugeumgang and the Japanese reading of the name is Kamekongou

My Japanese reference says that it's a Chou-mameba, or Super-beanleaf

Korean Links:

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From a couple of the photos however, it seems that the plant may have a propensity to grow long leaves in certain conditions...

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I'm not entirely sure that this is the right one, but the name is the same as the second one linked above.

Korean Name: Guhwa
Japanese Name: Kagaribi

Japanese reference says that it's a tiger variegated small leaved variety, but doesn't say anything about being a bean-leaf.

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Back when this post was written, it seems linking was the preferred way. But now posting photos of the subject is preferred. I was curious about this discussion. Some of these links no longer work. But the ones that do work yielded this picture that Google Translates the plant as "Turtle kongo".

If you have this plant please share a photo and some observations on this plant.

Here are two pictures of the desired form of this plant:



And here is a picture of the less desired form:

[kentaki]

Neofinetia isn't my object of affection, so I won't claim to be an expert. But this "bean" leaf reference makes me think it may be a case of direct translation. Mame in Japanese surely means bean. There is no doubt about that.

However, when it is used as an adjective, it also means something roundish and small/dwarf at the same time. A good example would be "Mame Shiba," which is a miniature Shiba Inu. Mame Kogane may be another case, and it is a Japanese name for Japanese beetles. Mameda is a dwarf raccoon dog. I did read some have leaves looking like coffee beans. But is there anybody know for sure "mame" is bean in this case?

[Hakumin]

Mame-ba does literally mean bean-leaf. The Kanji used for the word is 豆葉.

But yes, the english usage of "Bean Leaf" is most certainly a direct translation as you have indicated, and it has discarded the secondary meaning of "mame" (or in this case, the primary meaning) which is often used, as you mention, to indicate small or smallish round things, an equivalent of "mini-" more or less. Examples: Mame-shiba (toy shibainu), Mame-bonsai ( [second?] smallest class of bonsai), Mame-chishiki (trivia, "mini-knowledge")...

(However, the Japanese are very aware of the fact that mame can mean both "bean" and "mini", and beans are cute. Hence a certain adorable franchise called Mameshiba... Yes, beans are cute. )

[PaphLover]

My goodness! The pot or the plant? I can't decide which is cuter!!!!!!!!!!!!

[charlesf6]

I'm venturing.

[Pattywack]

Originally Posted by charlesf6

I'm venturing.

Me too Charles, me too. They are just too cute!

[Duane McDowell]

Oh, wow. That Gugeumgang is astonishing!
No problem finding room for it on the shelf, but I'll bet there might be trouble finding room in the bank account!