variegated neos in bloom

[Ranchnanny]

This is a question for LinhT. I would like to try my hand at growning one of these Neo's and potting them like yours. Exactly, what are the watering needs and would it be a candidate for being placed in an Orchidarium. Does it need high humidity?

Thanks Sheridan

[shakkai]

Sheridan, I will let LinhT reply, but in the mean time, you may want to have a look at Becca's thread about growing her's in an orchidarium:

http://www.orchidboard.com/community...s-my-neos.html

[Ranchnanny]

Thanks Shakkai I will check it out.


Sheridan

[LinhT]

Originally Posted by Ranchnanny

This is a question for LinhT. I would like to try my hand at growning one of these Neo's and potting them like yours. Exactly, what are the watering needs and would it be a candidate for being placed in an Orchidarium. Does it need high humidity?

Thanks Sheridan

Hi Sheridan! I'm no expert so I can only tell you what I've learned from Jason Fischer. At their greenhouse, most of the neos are grown in the "cool room". He says that he's found they grow best in the traditional moss mound. We're in Minneapolis, MN. The cool room maintains daytime temps of low 70's with lots of air circulation. I think he said night temps were low 60s to high 50's. I think the humidity is around 60% on non watering days but the days that they water, it feels really humid in there. He told me when they're grown in the moss mound, humidity is usually not an issue as long as it's kept watered. As far as the orchidarium thing, I think you'll have to do some experimenting. I believe several people on OB have theirs in the case, mounted, I think. The thing is, if the temps in the case get too warm......

They're suppose to tolerate a wide range of temps but I don't know if they grow "happily". Jason said he had a customer who had some neos not do so well. He thinks they might have been in an orchidarium and the temps probably got too warm. As for the watering, mine get watered when the outside of the moss gets cripsy and they are all potted up with the cavity. He said in the summer, keep them well watered and never dried out. In the winter, let them dry out. Hope this helps!

[LinhT]

"Okay, so what I want to photograph then, as a distinguishing feature, is the tsuke? That's the part that has so many variations. The jiku is basically just where the leaves attach to the stem. . .not so interesting."


Well, not always I guess. If I wanted to put an entry for Shunkyuuden, I think I'd say the distinguishing feature would be the circus freak flowers. I think it just depends on the plant. The jiku, I think is the actual stem or axis. the tsuke is that line between the jiku and the base of the leaf. Isn't this all quite interesting and pleasantly confusing

[LinhT]

Originally Posted by shakkai

There are some threads elsewhere that have the Meikan - and translations!

Neo's ranking system -

I have one - not sure what year it is from - but also have the translation of variety names that goes with it.

... and I just found this!

almost all of the names are links to photos! Main Menu

Shannan, it's so cool you found this thread too! I've been following this thread and many others on lots of different forums since early 2007, way before I ever got my first neo. There's a post on one of the slipper forums from a dude named Tom Velardi where he has a pic of his Orihime. It's sooooo gorgeous. I'll try to find it again and put a link here for you guys later.

There's also a Japanese fuuran book I may get later this year that lists over 300 fuuran/fuukiran. It's all in Japanese but each plant has a pic + the kanji and the english name listed.

Here's a link to a post on OSF that shows an image of the 2008 chart for those who do not have the program on their computer to display kanji.The Orchid Source Forum: Neofinetia questionThe Orchid Source Forum: Neofinetia question

[gmdiaz]

Originally Posted by LinhT

"Okay, so what I want to photograph then, as a distinguishing feature, is the tsuke? That's the part that has so many variations. The jiku is basically just where the leaves attach to the stem. . .not so interesting."


Well, not always I guess. If I wanted to put an entry for Shunkyuuden, I think I'd say the distinguishing feature would be the circus freak flowers. I think it just depends on the plant. The jiku, I think is the actual stem or axis. the tsuke is that line between the jiku and the base of the leaf. Isn't this all quite interesting and pleasantly confusing

Actually what I was thinking is to photograph a few distinquishing features:

1. the whole plant
2. the leaves
3. flowers
4 tsuke
5 roots

And then under distinquishing feature, describe what makes this particular Neo different from the other varieties. It could be the flowers, or that it is an unusually good variegated form, etc.

I am having just so much fun learning about my Neos and think it's just the greatest thing that we an share what we are finding here in our new Neofinetia section. (Marty, Sue & Dorothy are just the greatest!) Of course, now, I can see that I am going to need more Neos. . for. . ur, reasearch purposes.

I really want that Shunkyuuden with the peloric blooms. . .(now thinking) In Japanese the name is probably written something like this:

#1. Big Red Nose + #2 Falcon Wind = #3 Funky Snow Princess + #4 Noble Character = Rich Clown Freak Flowers.

[Becca]

Originally Posted by LinhT

Hi Sheridan! I'm no expert so I can only tell you what I've learned from Jason Fischer. At their greenhouse, most of the neos are grown in the "cool room". He says that he's found they grow best in the traditional moss mound. We're in Minneapolis, MN. The cool room maintains daytime temps of low 70's with lots of air circulation. I think he said night temps were low 60s to high 50's. I think the humidity is around 60% on non watering days but the days that they water, it feels really humid in there. He told me when they're grown in the moss mound, humidity is usually not an issue as long as it's kept watered. As far as the orchidarium thing, I think you'll have to do some experimenting. I believe several people on OB have theirs in the case, mounted, I think. The thing is, if the temps in the case get too warm......

They're suppose to tolerate a wide range of temps but I don't know if they grow "happily". Jason said he had a customer who had some neos not do so well. He thinks they might have been in an orchidarium and the temps probably got too warm. As for the watering, mine get watered when the outside of the moss gets cripsy and they are all potted up with the cavity. He said in the summer, keep them well watered and never dried out. In the winter, let them dry out. Hope this helps!

Hmmm...after reading this I am starting to think that my problem with my Neo's not being happy are the temps in the orchidarium.....it runs in the mid 70's to mid 80's during the day. So if I am growing them to warm.....what would be the signs that I should look for? I thought maybe my problem was lack of water....but I think that may not be correct as I water my mounted one's daily.

[gmdiaz]

Originally Posted by Becca

Hmmm...after reading this I am starting to think that my problem with my Neo's not being happy are the temps in the orchidarium.....it runs in the mid 70's to mid 80's during the day. So if I am growing them to warm.....what would be the signs that I should look for? I thought maybe my problem was lack of water....but I think that may not be correct as I water my mounted one's daily.

Becca, mine freak if it gets above 80 for even a little while. Whatever you do, do not let it get too dry in there while it's that warm!

I think they do like it cooler. . .try to keep it around mid 70's for a high if you can. . .see if that perks em up.

[LinhT]

Originally Posted by gmdiaz

Actually what I was thinking is to photograph a few distinquishing features:

1. the whole plant
2. the leaves
3. flowers
4 tsuke
5 roots

And then under distinquishing feature, describe what makes this particular Neo different from the other varieties. It could be the flowers, or that it is an unusually good variegated form, etc.

I am having just so much fun learning about my Neos and think it's just the greatest thing that we an share what we are finding here in our new Neofinetia section. (Marty, Sue & Dorothy are just the greatest!) Of course, now, I can see that I am going to need more Neos. . for. . ur, reasearch purposes.

I really want that Shunkyuuden with the peloric blooms. . .(now thinking) In Japanese the name is probably written something like this:

#1. Big Red Nose + #2 Falcon Wind = #3 Funky Snow Princess + #4 Noble Character = Rich Clown Freak Flowers.

I think those 5 things you listed are a great idea! And yes, I think you need more neos for umm, research. Definitely get Shunkyuuden soon if you really want one. I heard they're getting harder to find in Japan so buy it now before it gets even more expensive!!! Like my logic?

"#1. Big Red Nose + #2 Falcon Wind = #3 Funky Snow Princess + #4 Noble Character = Rich Clown Freak Flowers. "
LOL!!!! I like your names better. You need to rename all my neos. I'm going to create a new chart called the Gweniran Meikan.