Phal cornu-cervi

[Mervin]

The tag says -

Phal cornu-cervi forma Chattaladae (MC)

[camille1585]

That's a gorgeous cornu cervi!! I want a red one like that, but the one I've seen for sale is expensive and I'm not sure it's a true Chattaladae

[naoki]

Originally Posted by camille1585

That's a gorgeous cornu cervi!! I want a red one like that, but the one I've seen for sale is expensive and I'm not sure it's a true Chattaladae

So what is the definition/description of true chattaladae? Is it a natural variation or just an artificially selected variety?

[camille1585]

That's a subject of much debate. There was a very good thread about this last year, I'll look it up for you. If I remember right, var chattaladae is a natural variation, but I think very very few exist in the wild. There are problems with 'red' cornu cervi being called chattaladae. chattaladae should be solid red, but you see plants with some barring and marking getting called that though hey are just plain 'red'. I may be wrong on some of it, it's a complicated story. So I'll find that thread!

[camille1585]

http://www.orchidboard.com/community...attaladae.html Pretty interesting discussion, and have a look at the link to the chattaladae website in the first page of posts.

[Mervin]

A friend of mine paid SGD$1700 for a one a few years ago, he brought it in from Thailand.

Now it's going for anywhere from $30-$100 per plant.
Can't even tell the difference between a $30 or a $100 plant.

There are talk that a true Chattaladae don't even exist, it's just another red variant from a certain part of Thailand.

You decide.
As for me, I just like it for what it is, a red cornu cervi.

[camille1585]

I want a solid red one like yours, no matter what the name. But the seller that has it says it's chattaladae, but only a stock photo (not the actual plants he has), I can't be sure it's solid red...

[Lagoon]

I'll be going after one just like this soon.
Really beautiful - you must be pleased

[naoki]

Thank you, Camille. I found the discussion, and it explain the situation well.

http://www.orchidboard.com/community...attaladae.html
chattaladae.com: Phalaenopsis cornu-cervi fma. chattaladae
Big Leaf Orchid forum • View topic - chattaladae.com

So the original ones are coming from the natural variation, but the ones in the markets are derived from interpopulational cross (except the original mericlones), or they could be further crossed to others.

I guess it is confusing because we don't have a database to keep track of lineage & locality of the original plants. It would be great if we had some system like this for biology and conservaion of orchids.

[Bud]

Beautiful bloom. I love the shiny waxy red petals....its got a very interesting inner lip