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Originally Posted by Fairorchids
In recent years I have seen seedlings made with 'Syoujou' or some such spelling. It is a hybrid.
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While the other varieties you mention by name are indeed hybrids, Shōjō 猩々 is pure and registered in Japan. A proper
Shojo has basically identical flowers to Shutenno. I have occasionally seen mislabeled ones ones with darker or solidly colored flowers going around, and I think these came from a batch of seedlings produced in the US that mixed Shojo and Koto.
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Originally Posted by Fairorchids
In other words, if it has more pigment than Shu-Ten-Nou, it is likely too good to be true.
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There are a few pure neo varieties that have darker pink flowers than Shutenno. Some of these include
Shinryuko,
Benisuzume,
Tosashinko, etc.
The darkest flowered pure neo is Benitengu and while the variety has been around for decades, it was registered in Japan in 2018 because of
its exceptional color.
A better indication that a pink flowered Neo is a hybrid is the evenness of the color. Pink flowered pure neos will generally have uneven coloration, and pretty much anything that has even, solid pink petals (especially if the lip is also colored) is a hybrid.
In terms of yellow flowered neos, pure neos with yellow flowers will only have a very pale, fleetingly yellow color.
Oyashima and
Zuiun are two of the few pure neos with yellow flowers. Pure neo yellow flowers will also bloom at the darkest and slightly fade after opening. Hybrid yellow flowered neos on the other hand will bloom white or pale yellow and darken in color over a few days after blooming.
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Originally Posted by Ray
I don’t think that there is much distinction between species and hybrids in the neo world. Form and appearance are the important factors.
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Whether or not a plant is pure Neo or a hybrid does matter for registration purposes. Neither the Japanese nor Korean Neo associations will register a hybrid, and unregistered plants will generally be limited to the peripheral judging categories with the main judging limited to registered varieties.
The issue is more that among Neo growers, the precise genetic identity of a hybrid isn't considered as important as it is to western tradition orchid growers. Hybrids are basically considered novelties, and yeah, for those, form and appearance is definitely more important than the precise genetic identity.
As a side note: Some people insist that breeders purposefully keep the parentage secret, but from my conversations with breeders, yeah there are some that do keep it secret, but most simply just don't care. Okheon at Barampung also told me that because the concentration on breeding Neos, including their hybrids, has a heavy emphasis on searching for rare mutations rather than simple genetic mixing, even if you knew the parentage of a particular exceptional plant, the chances that you'd be able to recreate the same result is one in a million
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