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Old 04-30-2018, 12:58 PM
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Thank you for posting this. There is a lot of rhetoric (and laws) out there lacking scientific evidence and this is another such case.

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Loss of your caterpillars, LM, very possibly had nothing to do with use of systemics. GMO corn or other grains would be a likely culprit if grown anywhere in your area. The GMO's have had part of the genome from Bacteria thuringiensis spliced into them. The pollen -- which is wind borne -- contains it as well. If the pollen lands on leaves of other plants and is ingested by caterpillars, it has been found to kill the caterpillars.
This is absolutely, 100% not true. GMOs are proven time and time and time again to have ZERO negative impact on the environment and human health. You can rank anti-GMO rhetoric up there in the same category as anti-evolution, flat earth, or anti-vaccine rhetoric: Its all non-scientifically based gibberish based on fear and ignorance.

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The rhetoric can get overwhelming but as I said before and repeat - everyone should do their own due diligence in deciding.
GM corn IS having an impact. This article, as one example, links to numerous findings/studies on the decline in Monarch Butterfly populations.

Beyond Pesticides Daily News Blog >> Blog Archive Monarch Butterfly Numbers Keep Declining - Beyond Pesticides Daily News Blog
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Scientist finding many negative impacts of Roundup Ready GM crops

This article is scientifically factual and beyond argument
Three-quarters of the total insect population lost in protected nature reserves -- ScienceDaily

I think banning - and therefore encouraging pesticides formulation innovation - is a good thing. I personally applaud the EU for being proactive but then I suppose I'm crazy for preferring everything organic. Lol.

And this is more good news
State can label widely used herbicide as possible carcinogen - SFGate

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