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Old 06-25-2017, 10:37 AM
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You know what Ray. I wasn't quite sure how to advise with the fungicide thing... I think what you say has merit.

I have recently given in to using one for the purposes of deflasking due to poor survival rates in the past, but it is not a chemical one. It is a biological fungicide.

I don't really use chemical fungicides. After reading up on them, I find that there are too many drawbacks to apply for my personal tastes.

I left my suggestion for using fungicides open for biological and chemical fungicides because I knew some people have done the chemical fungicide method of deflasking and will defend it. I personally do not have a significant amount of experience to defend a chemical fungicide. However, I can advocate for the use of a biological one to some degree. My experiences with a biological fungicide is not terribly extensive, so the amount of what I can advocate is rather meager at this point. All I can say is that it may have increased the rate of success with some of the rarest seedlings I have.

I personally started using Serenade Garden Disease Control Concentrate only within the past 2 - 3 months and only when I got a shipment of flasks in.

If Inocucor is a biological control agent against plant pathogens and allows for the plant to adjust to its environment, I really don't think it is much of a shameless plug. You've plugged your products in the past, why stop now? I've never really notice anyone call you out on just trying to make a sale. I've disagreed with the use of certain products you've mentioned before, (and certainly not every single one), but just as an example, I've never said you were trying to just sell someone something and passing it off as advice.

I may not totally agree with the K-Lite thing, but I can most likely stand by you with the Inocucor product.

It is a shame you were considering shutting down your business. Coincidentally, I still have a large bottle of the MSU fertilizer for RO water I purchased from you years ago sitting on my desk. Even with the amount of orchids I had, I couldn't find a way to finish using it all in a short amount of time.

---------- Post added at 07:37 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:40 AM ----------

If anyone is curious as to what Inocucor contains there are labels on the internet that show it.

http://www.7springsfarm.com/content/...directions.pdf

I know that it contains a patented strain of Bacillus subtilis, which is a commonly sold anti-fungal bacterial species. The strain used is unknown.

Inocucor also contains baker's yeast, (Saccharomyces cereviseae).

There are other unlisted ingredients in it, but I think the biggest claim to fame is this Inocul-M consortium, whatever it is or they are.

Inocucor Technologies Receives Groundbreaking U S Patent For Proprietary Biological Processes That Stimulate Plant Growth

Bioremediation potential of a bacterial inoculant, Inocul-M consortium, on switchgrass (Panicum virgatum L.) plants grown in soils amended with biochar and spiked with polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons. | Mitacs

According to the book linked below, M consortium is probably a combination of bacteria as stated in Chapter 8, section 8.1, paragraph 3:

(Immobilised Biocatalysts for Bioremediation of Groundwater and Wastewater - Google Books)

According to the above link, there are 3 main species involved. They are one species of Hydrogenophaga, one species of Methylibium, and a species of Mycobacterium. If anyone can confirm this, that'd be great.



As a comparison, this is what Serenade Garden Disease Control contains: Bacillus subtilis QST 713 strain and other unlisted ingredients.
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