new hybrid ID help

[tmoney]

perhaps this shoulda been posted in the identification forum, but i thought it'd be better here! 2 or our deflasked seedling hybrids have bloomed, and we were hoping that somebody might be able to see if either of them have been registered. as far as we can tell, they haven't but we know that others know a lot more than we do!!!

first is phal. gigantea x Sogo White.



and the other is phal. Carmelas Mae Naui x Telbird



edit to add: Sade posted a pic of the gigantea hybrid a couple years ago, and i cant seem to find it here. anyone with better tech skillz than me able to find that pic either?! the search just won't work and ive stalked thru sades account pics to no avail....

thanks for any info!!