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Old 03-15-2014, 09:26 AM
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, I hope some tips to help me get success in S / H, I tried several times S / H, but after a week the rot of roots is evident, could be successful in this part of the country, or the weather does not is the most appropriate, I live in northeast philadelphia, PA ... I appreciate all your opinions and advice.
I developed the technique, and am probably no more than 20 miles from you in Doylestown (Parkside is in Ottsville, by the way). Granted, I am growing in a greenhouse, so that certainly affects the overall conditions, but based upon your post, I think you have missed a basic concept of plant growth, that applies universally, but especially so with a change to S/H culture, and are not considering the interrelation between culture and environment.

When roots grow, they "tailor" themselves on a cellular level to the environment they are growing in, so they can function optimally. Once the cells have grown, they cannot change.

Move them into a different environment, and those roots are no longer ideal for the environment, so the plant will need to grow new roots that are optimized. The greater the difference between old- and new environments, the faster you can expect the old ones to die and decompose. That's why the best time to move a plant into a new set of root zone conditions is right when brand new roots are emerging from the plant's base. Those new roots will grow optimized for the environment, and sustain the plant as the old roots fail.

Then there is how the conditions in the pot interact with the conditions around it. It's cold and dry this time of year. The "dry" part means that any source of water present will be pressed hard to evaporate. The openness of the LECA medium used in S/H culture means there is plenty of air flow around the roots - a great thing - but that also means it's much easier for the water to evaporate than it is from more traditional media. Faster evaporation means significant evaporative cooling, and that can be a bad thing, especially to plants that prefer to be very warm, like phalaenopsis.

That's not an issue in my greenhouse, as my %RH is kept quite high, greatly reducing evaporation and the related cooling.
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Old 03-15-2014, 11:11 AM
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I developed the technique, and am probably no more than 20 miles from you in Doylestown (Parkside is in Ottsville, by the way). Granted, I am growing in a greenhouse, so that certainly affects the overall conditions, but based upon your post, I think you have missed a basic concept of plant growth, that applies universally, but especially so with a change to S/H culture, and are not considering the interrelation between culture and environment.

When roots grow, they "tailor" themselves on a cellular level to the environment they are growing in, so they can function optimally. Once the cells have grown, they cannot change.

Move them into a different environment, and those roots are no longer ideal for the environment, so the plant will need to grow new roots that are optimized. The greater the difference between old- and new environments, the faster you can expect the old ones to die and decompose. That's why the best time to move a plant into a new set of root zone conditions is right when brand new roots are emerging from the plant's base. Those new roots will grow optimized for the environment, and sustain the plant as the old roots fail.

Then there is how the conditions in the pot interact with the conditions around it. It's cold and dry this time of year. The "dry" part means that any source of water present will be pressed hard to evaporate. The openness of the LECA medium used in S/H culture means there is plenty of air flow around the roots - a great thing - but that also means it's much easier for the water to evaporate than it is from more traditional media. Faster evaporation means significant evaporative cooling, and that can be a bad thing, especially to plants that prefer to be very warm, like phalaenopsis.

That's not an issue in my greenhouse, as my %RH is kept quite high, greatly reducing evaporation and the related cooling.
Hello and thank you for answering me Ray, I see what is my mistake, seeing that good roots deteriorate after a week to 10 days I take off the plant of S / H and let dry well, ... I gonna try again and I'll change it when the plant is beginning of new roots, and I will not worry as much for the loss of old roots, and will put on a heat mat, spring approaches that will help me a lot, I hope have more luck this time, thank you very much...

Lorena

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I have several genera in S/H in NY state so my conditions are probably similar to yours in Pa. I find that the phals in S/H on my windowsill, southeast exposure, need to be watered every 2-3 days. In winter the RH in the house is 30-40% and the hydroton dries out quickly. You should not let the reservoir dry out.
In summer I put them outside and water them pretty much every day with a hose. Phals naturally grow in a very humid area so don't be afraid to water them more often in S/H. With all the air pockets in between the hydroton it's almost impossible to overwater.
I also have phals in a grow tent where the humidity is 60-70% and those need water every 4-5 days.
I think you just need to water a little more frequently.

Bill
Hello Bill, thanks for sharing your experiences growing phals with me , the weather are similar, may be your winters and summers are hardest?, if you can grow in S / H, I can do that too ... thanks to reply me...

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Old 04-18-2014, 10:08 AM
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Looks like you have a lot of good advice re S/H. If it's any help, I live in frigid Montana and most of my "windowsill" orchids are in S/H - Phals, Catts, Den, Oncs, Paph, Zygo, Potinara. The Maxillaria tenuifolia and Den. anosmum are in full bloom now, with wonderful fragrance, and they are all thriving in S/H. I do have a portable humidifier that keeps the RH around 50-60% which is good for the orchs and me
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Old 04-20-2014, 04:58 PM
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Hi, I'm very happy since early April I have put a phal in S / H was with few roots but strong and had a root small off since then phal has responded very well, has released two roots more, I hope I follow as well, only lost 2 leaves I think it is normal, I have to upload pictures ... thank you all for your advice...
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Old 05-04-2014, 09:54 AM
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I put some pictures about my first phal in S/H...has new roots and new leaf...im happy
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