Transferring healthy plants to S/H
Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.

Transferring healthy plants to S/H
Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
Register Transferring healthy plants to S/H Members Transferring healthy plants to S/H Transferring healthy plants to S/H Today's PostsTransferring healthy plants to S/H Transferring healthy plants to S/H Transferring healthy plants to S/H
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > >
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-09-2013, 06:39 PM
Abbie9 Abbie9 is offline
Member
 

Join Date: Feb 2013
Zone: 5b
Posts: 40
Transferring healthy plants to S/H Female
Default Transferring healthy plants to S/H

I've been considering transferring to S/H culture for a while, but haven't quite committed yet. I know that when changing environments the plant will have to develop new roots in order to thrive. My question is, if my plants are doing well in sphag or bark with healthy root systems, how will they react to being placed into S/H? Will they have to completely grow a new root system and therefore be "under the weather" for several years to get back to the same level of root system they currently have? What's the general length of downtime they will experience before being back to their normal selves?

I'm thinking of experimenting with some of my rescues first since they already need to grow whole new systems, but if I like S/H I'll want to switch all my plants over to it eventually. I am reluctant if it's going to mess up an already good thing with my healthy fellows.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-09-2013, 07:39 PM
The Orchid Boy The Orchid Boy is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Dec 2011
Zone: 5a
Member of:AOS, G.O.O.S.
Location: Nebraska, zone 5a
Age: 29
Posts: 953
Transferring healthy plants to S/H Male
Unhappy

Welcome to Orchid Board!

About S/H... Yes, if you transfer a plant to S/H, it will need to grow an etirely new root system. It depends on the type of plant on how long it will take to recover. Most phals, phrags, and faster growing orchids will recover sooner, maybe in a year or less. Slower growing orchids will take longer. Don't get worried if lots of the old roots start rotting, they may do this until they get their new roots.

Just a few tips: Make sure you use pure (distilled or RO) water, flush every week or two, and use a complete fertilizer (I use K-lite).

Last edited by The Orchid Boy; 02-09-2013 at 07:41 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-09-2013, 07:42 PM
Vanda lover Vanda lover is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Dec 2010
Zone: 7b
Location: Vancouver Island BC.
Posts: 2,985
Transferring healthy plants to S/H Female
Default

Some plants adapt to it with no problem at all. My epi and phrag recovered right away. Others will need to grow new roots. This varies quite a bit. I have an oncidium sherry baby that someone gave me that looked like it was going to die, so I put it in s/h. It's taken several months but it has beautiful roots now. I think it might have taken just as long if I left it in bark.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-09-2013, 10:03 PM
Abbie9 Abbie9 is offline
Member
 

Join Date: Feb 2013
Zone: 5b
Posts: 40
Transferring healthy plants to S/H Female
Default

Thanks for the advice. I'll do some experimenting with the strugglers first and see how it goes.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-09-2013, 10:35 PM
Vanda lover Vanda lover is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Dec 2010
Zone: 7b
Location: Vancouver Island BC.
Posts: 2,985
Transferring healthy plants to S/H Female
Default

Good idea. Most of them really do well and it does take the guess work out of watering. Once a week I give mine a good flushing with clear water. Then I drain off as much water as possible and add diluted fertilizer.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-09-2013, 11:03 PM
Cattleya17 Cattleya17 is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Dec 2007
Zone: 6a
Location: Highland Falls In the lower Hudson
Age: 34
Posts: 804
Default

The phals will recover quickly IMO. You don't really have to worry about a long recovery period if you transfer at the right time in the first place. Always repot when the plant is making new roots so it will recover much faster. I had a lot of trepidation as well when I made the jump. I am so happy I did!! I have had 3 successful transfers already. And both phals are blooming and I switched them over just in August. The Phrag it's growing a lot and fast I transferred it only 2 months ago. Give it a whirl I think you will love it.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-10-2013, 08:27 AM
Ray's Avatar
Ray Ray is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: May 2005
Member of:AOS
Location: Oak Island NC
Posts: 15,191
Transferring healthy plants to S/H Male
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abbie9 View Post
Thanks for the advice. I'll do some experimenting with the strugglers first and see how it goes.
Nope. That's a terrible idea. Transplantation is stressful. Starting out with a weak plant is asking for failure.

How easy of a transition the plant has is dependent upon several parameters; two of the more significant are:

> Whether the current root system will "hang in there" or not is dependent upon how different the new and old root zone environments are. The closer they are, the longer it will be until they succumb. A moist sphagnum environment is a lot like the s/h pot, only likely with less air flow. Most plants going from sphagnum to s/h never miss a beat (as long as the root system is healthy).

> If the plant is actively growing new roots, they will take over support of the plant immediately, and loss of the old roots becomes far less significant.

Don't forget that the rest of your environment can also play a role. If you have very dry air, the evaporative cooling from the pot - something mostly showered by the compact nature of more traditional media components - may add stress.
__________________
Ray Barkalow, Orchid Iconoclast
FIRSTRAYS.COM
Try Kelpak - you won't be sorry!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-10-2013, 10:54 AM
Abbie9 Abbie9 is offline
Member
 

Join Date: Feb 2013
Zone: 5b
Posts: 40
Transferring healthy plants to S/H Female
Default

Thanks. I think that allays most of my s/h fears. I have some prime candidates for transplantation so I'll be ordering supplies soon! I've been itching to try it out for months and have been anxiously waiting for new growths.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-10-2013, 11:58 AM
ALToronto ALToronto is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 753
Transferring healthy plants to S/H Female
Default

My rescues are doing much better in s/h than they were in damp sphag. And when I tried to bag one of them, it died in 2 days. I disagree, Ray - rescues in s/h with kelp extract and a heat mat at least have a chance of survival.

On the other hand, I'm having second thoughts about cattleyas in s/h as a long-term environment - I think it's very important for them to dry out and have seasonal changes of conditions, so I will probably replant mine into something else.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-10-2013, 12:25 PM
billc's Avatar
billc billc is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Feb 2008
Zone: 6b
Location: The beautiful Hudson Valley of NY
Posts: 1,870
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ALToronto View Post
On the other hand, I'm having second thoughts about cattleyas in s/h as a long-term environment - I think it's very important for them to dry out and have seasonal changes of conditions, so I will probably replant mine into something else.
Al, Don't water them. The leca dries out just as thoroughly as bark, CHC or whatever kind of mix one would use. If I waited a week between waterings the plants I have in S/H would be bone dry.

Bill
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
dendrobium, oncidium, phalanopsis, s/h, s/h culture, plants, healthy, transferring


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
A New Way to Grow Terrarium Plants hydrophyte Terrarium Gardening 13 12-15-2017 06:54 PM
FEDEX destroyed my plants RJSquirrel Vendor Feedback 21 02-22-2012 04:34 PM
Phuphaman Orchids of Thailand dvespertilio Bulbophyllum Alliance 9 01-08-2012 12:18 PM
Horrible ebay experience. Are these healthy phals? joveaurora Beginner Discussion 32 07-21-2011 10:12 PM
Orchid Fertilzer on Other Plants??? orchidjunky Beginner Discussion 13 03-20-2008 10:56 AM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:16 PM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.