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Old 12-29-2021, 06:59 AM
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Most of my collection is paphs and phrags - they get a monthly Kelpak treatment all year.

I will be potting up some deflasked paph seedlings tomorrow. They are currently submerged in a Kelpak + probiotic bath overnight.
Pardon me Ray as probably you have already responded to the same question here or on your website.

Do you apply Kelpak, Quantum and K-lite in the same watering solution, or you prefer to keep Kelpak and Quantum separated?

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Old 12-29-2021, 07:42 AM
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Pardon me Ray as probably you have already responded to the same question here or on your website.

Do you apply Kelpak, Quantum and K-lite in the same watering solution, or you prefer to keep Kelpak and Quantum separated?

Thx.

Dav
When I still had my greenhouse, K-Lite was automatically metered into my RO water, so I put Kelpak in a hose-end sprayer the first watering of a calendar month, applying both at once, then the second watering of a month, I did the same with the probiotic.

However, I did that only for convenience, as the hose-end sprayer only held enough Kelpak for 64 gallons of solution, or 32 gallons of probiotics.

Now that I have a much smaller collection, and that sprayer has sufficient capacity to water the whole collection while they’re out on my deck in the summer, I feed weekly using only K-Lite, and apply the two supplements together a week later. In winter, when they’re indoors, I water using a 4-gallon, battery-powered sprayer, and I mix all three together one week a month, followed by weekly, fertilizer-only treatments.

Here’s the bottom line - they are synergistic. Sure, we focus on the three components being beneficial to the plant, but the nitrogen in the fertilizer also stimulates growth and reproduction in the microbes, and the Kelpak ingredients feed them as well (kelp extracts are part of the feed stock when producing the products in the first place). By using all three together - or as close to that as you can conveniently do so - you are maximizing their overall benefits.
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Old 12-29-2021, 05:46 PM
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When I still had my greenhouse, K-Lite was automatically metered into my RO water, so I put Kelpak in a hose-end sprayer the first watering of a calendar month, applying both at once, then the second watering of a month, I did the same with the probiotic.

However, I did that only for convenience, as the hose-end sprayer only held enough Kelpak for 64 gallons of solution, or 32 gallons of probiotics.

Now that I have a much smaller collection, and that sprayer has sufficient capacity to water the whole collection while they’re out on my deck in the summer, I feed weekly using only K-Lite, and apply the two supplements together a week later. In winter, when they’re indoors, I water using a 4-gallon, battery-powered sprayer, and I mix all three together one week a month, followed by weekly, fertilizer-only treatments.

Here’s the bottom line - they are synergistic. Sure, we focus on the three components being beneficial to the plant, but the nitrogen in the fertilizer also stimulates growth and reproduction in the microbes, and the Kelpak ingredients feed them as well (kelp extracts are part of the feed stock when producing the products in the first place). By using all three together - or as close to that as you can conveniently do so - you are maximizing their overall benefits.
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EM-1 is a good product as long as its manufactured by an approved maker by the EMRO (EM research organization), make sure it has an expiration date as it will not be as effective when older. It's a mixture of lactobacillus, yeasts and photosynthetic bacteria. You can look online how to multiply it by fermenting it with molasses and can amplify 1L into 20L of solution. Keep in mind that you must always ferment with the original manufactured product because the ratios of organisms will drift over time and the product will not be reproducible. The amplified product is good for about 3-4 months in the fridge.
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