Naming: Plant x Self

[lotis146]

So I have Aganisia cyanea x Self (reads the tag) & I'm just curious about its name.

When referring to this plant does it remain Aganisia cyanea or does this plant being a cross with itself qualify some kind of naming amendment??

I might ask the same for my Tolu. Buck Hollow x Sib... Does my particular cross now remain Buck Hollow? Do you just always say x Sib or x Self or is their some fancy naming rule in these cases?

Thanks!

[Ray]

In both cases, the plant names remain unchanged.

The "x self" or "x sib" are intended to tell you that they are seed produced plants, using pollen from the (respectively) same plant or from another plant that had originated from the same breeding line.

I have seen "sibling" used to indicate pollen was from any other plant of the same species or hybrid, but you may also see a designation of an "outcross", which tells you that the pollen is from an unrelated breeding line.

[lotis146]

Thanks Ray, very much appreciated.

[orchidsarefun]

I would add that a 'x self' should produce a plant that is 'closer' to the self, genotype and phenotype - in theory. A 'x sibling' would introduce, in theory, a range of outcomes especially if the sibling had a different phenotype and thus by implication a different genotype. For example, I have seen with my first blooms different shape and markings and even different foliage colours. If the sibling parents are made up of a number of species, then its logical to assume that the offspring will display these origins in varying degrees.
I have seen proof of this in my amaryllis seedlings too. I have about 50 seedlings, of which 5 have bloomed and I expect at least 10-15 more seedlings to bloom this Summer. I selfed the parent as I had read that Amaryllis do not breed 'true' - in other words the progeny do not look like the parent because the parent is itself a hybrid. Well out of the 5 to bloom so far, 3 are as close as darnit to the parent, whereas 2 are noticeably different. I could do further experiments ( backcross to parent, self, x sib etc ).......but I don't have the space !