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Old 01-27-2012, 10:35 PM
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I cannot seem to find what the intergeneric hybrid name for a Maxillaria x Zygopetalum. Anyone know what this may be?
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:24 PM
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Has one of these hybrids been registered yet? Unless there has been one registered, the genus name does not officially exist yet. (another way of saying that I can't find it)
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:56 PM
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So if you register this type of hybrid then you get to name the resulting genus as well?
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Old 01-28-2012, 12:26 AM
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Well, the main reason this has never been registered is because a hybrid between these two genera is impossible. They come from two different subtribes, the Maxillariinae and the Zygopetalinae, respectively, which means it is genetically impossible.
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Old 01-28-2012, 10:56 AM
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Well, the main reason this has never been registered is because a hybrid between these two genera is impossible. They come from two different subtribes, the Maxillariinae and the Zygopetalinae, respectively, which means it is genetically impossible.
Well, I hate to tell you but I have 5 flasks to prove it. Pods took in both directions and on multiple spikes. Always be mindful of absolutes.

Also Zygos are in the tribe of Maxillaria.

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Old 01-28-2012, 11:03 AM
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Do these flasks have viable seeds growing in them? I am most certainly curious, and I would love to see pics!
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Old 01-28-2012, 11:40 AM
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I have photos just cant figure out how to get from my tablet to here.



---------- Post added at 11:40 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:21 AM ----------

Here is another of smaller plantlets.


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Old 01-28-2012, 11:42 AM
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Also Zygos are in the tribe of Maxillaria.
Yes, but Cattleyas and Masdevallias are both in the tribe Epidendreae, and a cross between them has never happened, whereas Cattleyas and Laelias share the same subtribe, Laeliinae, and Cattleyas and Laelias readily interbreed. Another thing, Oncidiums are in tribe Maxillarieae, subtribe Oncidiinae, and even though they are similar to Zygopetalums, there is no registered hybrids between them.
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Old 01-28-2012, 11:52 AM
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Yes, but Cattleyas and Masdevallias are both in the tribe Epidendreae, and a cross between them has never happened, whereas Cattleyas and Laelias share the same subtribe, Laeliinae, and Cattleyas and Laelias readily interbreed. Another thing, Oncidiums are in tribe Maxillarieae, subtribe Oncidiinae, and even though they are similar to Zygopetalums, there is no registered hybrids between them.
I thibk that many of the tribe and subtribes need to be changed personally. Jumbo Orchids has registered a great number of otherwise thought impossible crosses in recent history.

So, now that you have seen the plants what would the name be?

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Truth be told I was told by the company that did my flasking that I wouldn't get anything. I said do it anyway, surprisingly of the 6 pods that were given for flasking at that time this odd intergeneric was the only to grow. The others were species crosses.
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Old 01-28-2012, 11:53 AM
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I thibk that many of the tribe and subtribes need to be changed personally. Jumbo Orchids has registered a great number of otherwise thought impossible crosses in recent history.

So, now that you have seen the plants what would the name be?
Not a clue!!!
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