I have some seed to share - interested?

[Monstera deliciosa]

Hello, I'm very interested in both, but specially in Phaius. I can offer some in trade, not big quantyties, but at least for a few mother flasks. Are you interested?

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[Royal]

Monstera, I'm not sure about shipping internationally. Regulations get a little complicated, sorry. Let me know if you come visit the US sometime.


So far I've gotten seed out to about 4 or 5 of you. Any other takers in the US? I just made a large "deposit" in the Orchid Seedbank, but I still have plenty to share. Plus this spring's pods are just about ready so there's more on the way!

[Monstera deliciosa]

Hello Royalorchids, thankyou for answering. What's the regulation you are mentioning? CITES or a specific from the US? Would be good to know, because I trade seeds all over with no problem so far. Acording to CITES and never protected species. So would like to know about US regulations not to do something ilegal.

Thank you,

Olivia

[camille1585]

Seeds that are not from plants listed on Appendix I do not need any documents whatsoever. All other seed is except from CITES. OSP ships seeds internationally with no problems at all, it clearly explained on their website. Seeds seem to fall under completely different rules. For example Cannabis is illegal in most of Europe, yet the possession of seed is completely legal.

That being said, do you still have some Bletilla seeds? I have some P669 medium to use. What other stuff do you have on the way that you wouldn't mind sharing? Sorry I have nothing to trade, I haven't tried making my own crosses yet.

[camille1585]

I double checked what I posted on the website of the US Fish and Wildlife service. Here's what they write concerning seed:

Does the import or export of seeds need permits? Under CITES, seeds of Appendix-II plants (except seeds from Mexican cacti originating in Mexico) and seeds of Appendix-I artificially propagated hybrids are exempt from CITES controls. Plants grown from exempt seeds, however, are protected and require CITES permits to be imported or exported. Under the ESA, seeds of endangered plants require permits to be imported or exported. Seeds of threatened plants require permits if the seeds came from wild plants, but do not require permits if the seeds are from artificially propagated plants. A label stating that the seeds are of cultivated origin must accompany the shipment of such seeds. To find out how a species is protected, click here to access the CITES list and the ESA list. Check with APHIS and the State to meet their requirements.

[Monstera deliciosa]

Hello Camille, that's what I thought also. But there are a very few plants wich have protected seeds in CITES, but are not many and sure none have been mentioned in this post.

Thank you for your file. Are you going to the Orchid show in Dresden?

Regards,

Olivia

[Royal]

It's not CITES I'm worried about, I just don't want to unintentionally do something illegal. I actually called my closest APHIS office and they said seed is a "plant material" and may require permitting. I just stopped digging at that point. So many rules, so confusing.

I'm not against shipping overseas if it is permitted.

[Monstera deliciosa]

Hello Royal, I think there is no legal problem, but if you are not sure or do not fell confortable with it, no problem.

Did you sow them yourself already? You had succes with them so far?

Regards,

Olivia

[kavanaru]

as far as I know CITES would also be needed for seeds or pollen from plants which are CITES protected. (Note that if seeds would be able to be sent withoutthese permits, long ago you would have had Paph helenae and Paph hangianum and all vietnamese Paphiopedilum already legal in the USA!) my

I also know that some countries take teh CITES regulation easier than others, and that teh USA is the worst with it

Phytosanitary permits would also be needed for some countries (not sure about EU Countries)!!

[Monstera deliciosa]

Hello Ramon, that's exactly the same I said, some but very few need CITES, but are not the mentioned in this post.

Did you flask any Phap. so far? which media you use?

Regards,

Olivia