Yeah I have heard of people soaking them for a day or 12 hours in sugar to bring to life any fungus then they use peroxide instead of bleach and all the fugus that was on it would have woke up by then!! and they die from the peroxide!
he said that or maybe it is one other one I will just have to wait and see cuz then I also have both the seeds and one needs coconut to sprout better he said! Or one of the hormones I have like BAP!! I will ask by email tomorrow! or oh!! man it could be encyclia I am not sure my friend has the list I just have the #'s and lettering because I spilled water on the paper so I have to get another from him or go back thru my emails!!!!!!