Trying to learn how to pollinate phals

[Gwenchanter]

Hi everyone, I've read a lot of articles and posts about pollinating phaleanopsis, but I'm not sure I'm understanding it correctly.

When I look at the column of a flower, there is a white cap and when I remove the white cap, there are two yellow balls. Do I need to dissect one of the balls to find the pollin or can I just take one of the balls and shove it into the v-shaped apparatus on the lip of a flower on another plant? Also, people talk about getting it to stick but I have not encountered any sticky substances either on the yellow ball or on the flower lip.

Detailed info with photos/diagrams would be apprechiated. Thanks.

[Magnus A]

Hi

The yellow balls is the pollina, Take those balls and put them on the stigma (the sticky mark on the column not the lip) and you have pollinated you phal. Just wait and have some luck!

Unfortunate I do not have any pictures

[phalaephila]

I did a google image search using "pollinating phalaenopsis" and on the second page of results I found a couple image links. Try it and see if that helps.

jeanne

[Gwenchanter]

Thanks that was a great idea. I found some good images. I totally didn't realize there was an upside-down cup on the underside of the column, but now that I look at my flowers I see it! I'm assuming it's best not to remove the anther cap on the pod parent? And also, I have a brand new flower just opened which I would like to use as the father, but the flowers on the plant i would like to be the mother are about a week old. Do you think they are too old?

[phalaephila]

What are the names of the parents? I think I remember hearing that Phal. bellina does not pollinate well when fresh (I hope I'm getting that right, can't remember if it was being used as pollen or pod parent, I think pod...). In other species and hybrids, in my very limited hobbyist experience, I don't think your flowers are too old, perhaps a little young? As flowers can last for three months or so, you have time, let the pollen mature for a couple days. Someone with more experience will perhaps contradict me, and we both will learn.

[dgenovese1]

Originally Posted by Gwenchanter

Thanks that was a great idea. I found some good images. I totally didn't realize there was an upside-down cup on the underside of the column, but now that I look at my flowers I see it! I'm assuming it's best not to remove the anther cap on the pod parent? And also, I have a brand new flower just opened which I would like to use as the father, but the flowers on the plant i would like to be the mother are about a week old. Do you think they are too old?

Gwen,

You do want to remove the pollinia/anther cap from the pod parent, otherwise you stand a good chance of self pollinating your new hybrid. Also, Phalaephila's advice is good about letting the flowers mature a bit before pollinating them, I would say at least a couple of weeks. I hope this is helpful to you.

[Gwenchanter]

Sounds great! thanks so much phalaephila and dgenovese! I plan on using Daniella Ter Laak as the pollen parent and Brother Love King "De Leon's Exotic" as the pod parent. Daniella is a clear yellow with very nicely shaped largish flowers and De Leon's Exotic has deep purple spots in little rows radiating from the center, with a pinkish background. By crossing it with Daniella I hope to keep the spot pattern the same but make the background more peachy or yellow colored.

Another question just occured to me... Once the flowers are mature enough, how many of the flowers on the pod parent should I pollinate? I thought maybe if i did two or three it would give a better chance for it to work. Of course I dont want to over stress the plant so what do you think?

[Royal]

Originally Posted by Gwenchanter

Another question just occured to me... Once the flowers are mature enough, how many of the flowers on the pod parent should I pollinate? I thought maybe if i did two or three it would give a better chance for it to work. Of course I dont want to over stress the plant so what do you think?

Three shouldn't be too many. I'd definitely do more than one (if you can). Just a note on the age of the parent flowers: somewhere along the line I read that the seed parent should be younger - fully opened, but fresh. The pollen can, in some, mature at a different rate (to prevent self-pollinating). We also know that pollen can be stored for extended periods of time. If I had the choice, I'd use pollen from a flower that's been fully opened for at least a week and I'd put it on a flower that's only been fully open for about three days. But that's just my total hack amateur .

[Gwenchanter]

Well I have awesome news! I pollinated three flowers on friday and today I noticed that the columns are swelling on all three and the petals are starting to go limp and curl. Also, I noticed that the female cup-like part (I forget the name right now) has closed up on all three flowers. I used pollin from the older flowers instead of the flowers that just opened and I pollinated flowers that have been open for about a week, so I guess it worked!? Out of the three I'm hoping at least one makes a decent seed pod but I'm thinking about cutting off two of them once they start making seeds. After all I dont really have the room to rear all the seedlings from three seed pods!

[mnoor]

Originally Posted by Magnus A

Hi

The yellow balls is the pollina, Take those balls and put them on the stigma (the sticky mark on the column not the lip) and you have pollinated you phal. Just wait and have some luck!

Unfortunate I do not have any pictures

Magnus, sorry got to ask you this silly question, Stigma of same flower or of another flower? Excuse me because I am very new to orchids keeping.