How to know when seed pods are ready?
Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.

How to know when seed pods are ready?
Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
Register How to know when seed pods are ready? Members How to know when seed pods are ready? How to know when seed pods are ready? Today's PostsHow to know when seed pods are ready? How to know when seed pods are ready? How to know when seed pods are ready?
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > >
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #11  
Old 01-11-2022, 09:16 PM
WaterWitchin's Avatar
WaterWitchin WaterWitchin is offline
Administrator
 

Join Date: Feb 2011
Zone: 6a
Location: Kansas
Posts: 5,203
Default

ShadeFlower... stop.
__________________
Caveat: Everything suggested is based on my environment and culture. Please adjust accordingly.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-11-2022, 10:59 PM
My Green Pets's Avatar
My Green Pets My Green Pets is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Colorado
Age: 44
Posts: 2,588
Default

I've been growing Cattleyas for seed for three years now, and I follow Troy Meyers' advice. Troy manages the Meyers Conservatory and flasks species seeds free of charge.

Following his advice, I've gotten 100% successful germination so far.

Here is an article:

Capsule Drying and Seed Preparation

And here is my video on collecting dry seed:

How I collected dry seed from my Cattleya orchid - YouTube

Now, Aerangis may be completely different from Cattleya, but hopefully this is still helpful for you.

Good luck and looking forward to updates!
__________________
William Green | mygreenpets.org
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 3 Likes
Likes Fuerte Rav, sweetas647, alfrsa liked this post
  #13  
Old 01-12-2022, 08:31 AM
Grautier Grautier is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Nov 2021
Posts: 132
How to know when seed pods are ready?
Default



Thats how epiphytic orchid seeds can look like. As they must stay 'tree-born' there is no superfluous weight. If they get very dry, there is (in vitro) an easy to solve 'problem' to get them wetted.
Ground dwelling orchids ripen there seeds VERY fast. The seed gets into earth before summer drought (where I live), soak and begin germination with first rains, stop when t⁰ fall and eventually grow one tiny leaf in spring. If I'm lucky to find some this winter (its still far too dry this year, many plants are skipping flower) I'll post a photo here.
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes Fuerte Rav liked this post
  #14  
Old 01-21-2022, 10:23 AM
King_of_orchid_growing:)'s Avatar
King_of_orchid_growing:) King_of_orchid_growing:) is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Zone: 9a
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 9,313
Default

Without resorting to any further mudslinging...

If you guys are interested in learning. ALL orchid seeds generally consist of 3 basic structures.

1. The outer coat - called the testa. Under the microscope with low powered magnification, they generally look papery and are mostly transparent or translucent. They are also usually 1 cell layer thick. The diagrams posted above by Grautier show the many forms of testa that can present in different species of orchids.

2. The embryo. These can be shaped differently depending on the orchid. Most are spherical. Some are oblong elliptical.

3. The carapace: This is a structure that does not show up in the diagrams that was posted above. It is also usually 1 cell layer thick and envelops the embryo. It is not visible under low powered magnification.

Note: Most orchid seeds do not contain endosperm. Endosperm is like egg yolk to an embryonic plant.

Lack of endosperm in the seed is why the large majority of orchid seeds cannot germinate on their own without the use of symbiotic or asymbiotic in-vitro germination methods (aka tissue culture methods).

Those species that have some stores of endosperm in their seeds are species such as Bletilla striata. I have germinated these seeds without using in-vitro methods and it is the most fun experience ever! Growing the protocorms out was a disaster though...

Although, very few orchids have endosperm, for best seed germination success, it is much safer to assume that there is not a single orchid that has seeds that contain endosperm and just use tissue culture methods to germinate all of them.

In most cases, scarification of the testa is not necessary to germinate seeds. I've only seen mention of this method with orchids such as Cypripediums. For orchids like Phalaenopsis or Cattleya, I've not seen it mentioned as a necessary step for germination.

There are 2 ways to germinate seed:

1. Dry seed.

2. Green seed.

Many people who sow orchid seeds prefer the green seed method where they have the grower collect what is known as mature green pods.

If the seeds are viable, (seed viability depends on whether the embryo is still alive upon sowing), it doesn't really matter if the seeds provided are dry or green.
__________________
Philip

Last edited by King_of_orchid_growing:); 01-21-2022 at 10:53 AM..
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 2 Likes
Likes sweetas647, Fuerte Rav liked this post
  #15  
Old 01-22-2022, 02:39 AM
My Green Pets's Avatar
My Green Pets My Green Pets is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Colorado
Age: 44
Posts: 2,588
Default

He's back!!!
__________________
William Green | mygreenpets.org
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
flasking, plant, pods, seed, time


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Seed pods on Phalaenopsis Orchid Deena Propagation 3 12-26-2016 07:49 PM
Phal with 2 seed pods, but now growing a flower?? LeanneS Propagation 7 11-17-2011 06:48 PM
Leiki's, spikes n seed pods..on the same spikes Kelo Hybrids 0 07-05-2011 12:22 PM
Neofinetia seed pods ripening in winter rest ? s.kallima Vanda Alliance - Neofinetia 2 11-20-2010 03:38 PM
Help with seed pods Stasisgate Beginner Discussion 5 02-12-2008 06:27 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:07 AM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.