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rbarata 07-08-2016 02:36 PM

Root growth promoter made of beans
 
Hello, my friends

Since it's not easy (if not impossible) to find Kelpmax around here I've been searching for alternatives and found one.
Put one portion of beans into three portions of water, when they germinate put it in the blender and mix the resulting product in eight portions of water.

Does anybody heard about this?

It seems when the beans are germinating they produce a natural hormone, a root growth promoter called indolebutyric acid (IBA). It can be made with other vegetables such as lentils and other.

Orchid Whisperer 07-08-2016 04:47 PM

I have not heard of this before. Did you read about this somewhere (link please, if source is online)?

If you try it, let us know if it works!

dnatural1 07-08-2016 05:42 PM

Rooting powders
 
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Originally Posted by rbarata (Post 809971)
Hello, my friends

Since it's not easy (if not impossible) to find Kelpmax around here I've been searching for alternatives and found one.
Put one portion of beans into three portions of water, when they germinate put it in the blender and mix the resulting product in eight portions of water.

Does anybody heard about this?

It seems when the beans are germinating they produce a natural hormone, a root growth promoter called indolebutyric acid (IBA). It can be made with other vegetables such as lentils and other.

A lot of rooting powders (for promoting root developments from cuttings) also have Indole Butyric Acid. Should be available from hardware stores. nurseries, hydroponic places, ... etc. Good to know of natural alternatives however. My current preference is to move to more 'natural chemicals' for plant culture (fertilzers, pesticides, and others).

silken 07-08-2016 05:43 PM

I haven't heard of this for plants. Of course eating sprouted lentils is supposed to be very good for you. I find any seaweed product found at a hydroponics store works great for promoting roots.

rbarata 07-08-2016 06:35 PM

I couldn't find any link to an english site, only in portuguese.
But there's something similar, with the same principle. It's called willow water. Willows new shoots and bark have high IBA concentrations so, any plant that has it can be used to do it.~
A google search for "Willow water" would give lots of results.

Anyway, I already have some lentils in water to try it. I think it won't do any harm.

jcec1 07-08-2016 07:13 PM

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Organic-Liq...pshire+seaweed I use this from Amazon, I think they will deliver to Portugal.

Irielicious 07-08-2016 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rbarata (Post 809989)
I couldn't find any link to an english site, only in portuguese.
But there's something similar, with the same principle. It's called willow water. Willows new shoots and bark have high IBA concentrations so, any plant that has it can be used to do it.~
A google search for "Willow water" would give lots of results.

Anyway, I already have some lentils in water to try it. I think it won't do any harm.

I use willow water and its awesome!!! It will get anything you need rooted quickly!!! Orchids of course are on their own schedule but even for them they seem to just love it!!! After just two soaks on my bare root phal shes throwing out 3 new roots!!!

Make sure when you find a willow tree that you get the green little branches boil them good for like 15 minutes and them let them sit overnight covered.

After doing that come back the next day and give it a light boil again, cool, strain and put into a container with a tight lid.

It will keep for about two months if you are careful not to leave it open or contaminate it.

PaphMadMan 07-08-2016 08:00 PM

Living growing plant tissues produce several kinds of hormones that help control normal healthy plant growth. One specific example, germinating seeds and apical meristems (actively growing stem tips) produce auxins that regulate stem elongation and apical dominance (the tendency to have a single upright stem with branches that tend to be more horizontal) and promoted root growth among other things. The naturally occurring form is usually IAA (indole acetic acid) but there are many other active forms including IBA. Commercially available rooting powders or gels use various auxins, and stronger chemical forms are actually used as herbicides, forcing plants into fast unnatural growth that kills them. Charles Darwin did some of the first experiments that led to the discovery of auxins.

Willow tea is a pretty well known way to extract natural auxins to use to promote root growth, but germinating seeds are also a logical source. Seeds may also be a potent source of other hormones and growth promoting substances that might amplify or complicate the effect. I think grains might have been a more logical source to try than beans, but if someone has worked out a method using beans it is certainly worth a try. Coconut water would be another fairly easily used natural source.

rbarata 07-08-2016 08:14 PM

Another suprisingly, yet I don't know the efficiency, is honey.
More suprisingly is acetylsalicylic acid, commonly known as aspirin. It is said that it promotes growth and helps boost the plant’s immune system.

Irielicious 07-08-2016 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rbarata (Post 810001)
Another suprisingly, yet I don't know the efficiency, is honey.
More suprisingly is acetylsalicylic acid, commonly known as aspirin. It is said that it promotes growth and helps boost the plant’s immune system.

Aspirin is made out of willow tree so that makes sense...Honey I have also used with good results only problem is that ants can smell that stuff for miles lol.

You must use wild honey meaning that it hasn't be treated with anything or heated excessively etc. All you do is with warm water you put a tablespoon in for about 946mL or 32 ounces stir it well so all will go into solution.

Then dab it on as needed around where you want roots. Do not dip into container use another small container to dab or add it to your normal watering routine by soaking it in the honey water. I don't know if you all have fire ants but we do here so I don't use honey too often only because I will have ants all over lol.

Fresh coconut water is also good I don't know if you get them easily where you are from but I usually crack one open use what I need and freeze in ice cube trays about the amount I will need (each time) then move to a freezer baggie.

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Originally Posted by PaphMadMan (Post 809999)
Living growing plant tissues produce several kinds of hormones that help control normal healthy plant growth. One specific example, germinating seeds and apical meristems (actively growing stem tips) produce auxins that regulate stem elongation and apical dominance (the tendency to have a single upright stem with branches that tend to be more horizontal) and promoted root growth among other things. The naturally occurring form is usually IAA (indole acetic acid) but there are many other active forms including IBA. Commercially available rooting powders or gels use various auxins, and stronger chemical forms are actually used as herbicides, forcing plants into fast unnatural growth that kills them. Charles Darwin did some of the first experiments that led to the discovery of auxins.

Willow tea is a pretty well known way to extract natural auxins to use to promote root growth, but germinating seeds are also a logical source. Seeds may also be a potent source of other hormones and growth promoting substances that might amplify or complicate the effect. I think grains might have been a more logical source to try than beans, but if someone has worked out a method using beans it is certainly worth a try. Coconut water would be another fairly easily used natural source.

Exactly!!! Pretty cool huh!!!


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