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eggshells 09-27-2014 05:26 PM

Two forms of henryanum
 
By form I mean shape. One is more of the typical henry and the other is a bit different I think. The second one has more pointy pouch. and the leaves are narrower than the other one. Weird petal action as well, definitely an odd duck. But nothing outside of the natural variation of the species.

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Paph. henryanum by paphioman, on Flickr

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Paph. henryanum by paphioman, on Flickr

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Paph. henryanum by paphioman, on Flickr

skinny

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Paph. henryanum 'skinny' by paphioman, on Flickr

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Paph. henryanum 'skinny' by paphioman, on Flickr

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Paph. henryanum 'skinny' by paphioman, on Flickr

Fairorchids 09-27-2014 06:02 PM

At first glance, the shape of 'Skinny' is so different, that one would think that it is a primary hybrid. Possibly with insigne (based on slipper shape). However, the colors are so clearly henryanum and nothing else, that it can't be a hybrid.

I have always had a love/hate relationship with henryanum, in part due to the bulbous slipper (resembling Jimmy Durante's nose). I find this atypical henryanum very attractive (and would love to trade for a piece of it some day).

I think that this very distinctive plant is deserving of a clonal name (something better than 'Skinny' please).

WhiteRabbit 09-27-2014 07:26 PM

Wonderful!

Brenda Aarts 09-27-2014 10:39 PM

Nice growing, beautiful healthy plants. I just acquired one and now am excited about it!!,

silken 09-27-2014 11:33 PM

Looking very nice!

eggshells 09-28-2014 12:05 AM

Thank you all.

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Originally Posted by Fairorchids (Post 706287)
At first glance, the shape of 'Skinny' is so different, that one would think that it is a primary hybrid. Possibly with insigne (based on slipper shape). However, the colors are so clearly henryanum and nothing else, that it can't be a hybrid.

I have always had a love/hate relationship with henryanum, in part due to the bulbous slipper (resembling Jimmy Durante's nose). I find this atypical henryanum very attractive (and would love to trade for a piece of it some day).

I think that this very distinctive plant is deserving of a clonal name (something better than 'Skinny' please).

Thanks, the second one had both other peoples reaction on both sides of the spectrum. Some like it and some not. I do like it as a matter of fact similar to the what you have describe above. It is a unique plant and quite a breathe of fresh air. To me, it seems like henryanums are starting to look like a clones of a single plant lol.

What clonal name would you suggest?

Fairorchids 09-28-2014 10:58 PM

In my collection I use two primary clonal names:

For plants I think could garner an AOS award some day, I use my wife's middle name (Akhtar, which means something like 'shining star' in Farsi).

For plants that are unique, and to be kept for breeding, I use the name of the little town I live in.

If there are special circumstances, I play around with one of those names.

In this case the plant is unique (atypical, but at least to me more attractive), but 'Skinny' (or 'Pointy Nose') does not do it justice. If you do not have a suitable clonal name, I might suggest one of these:

Little Dipper (referencing the slender slipper)
Pixie (unless plant is too large compared with your other henryanums)
Faberge (there should be an accent over the last e, based on your OB user name)

TOMMYMIAMI 09-28-2014 11:28 PM

Absolutely gorgeous, I love everything about this one!

NYCorchidman 09-29-2014 08:09 PM

I like the more typical one.
How old are these plants? I see that both are nicely clumped.

Mine is in bloom and the shape is like your first one but with the weird petal action of the second, which I'm not too fond of. Oh, well...

eggshells 09-30-2014 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Fairorchids (Post 706486)

Little Dipper (referencing the slender slipper)
Pixie (unless plant is too large compared with your other henryanums)
Faberge (there should be an accent over the last e, based on your OB user name)

Lil Dipper is cute. Thanks

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Originally Posted by NYCorchidman (Post 706678)
I like the more typical one.
How old are these plants? I see that both are nicely clumped.

Mine is in bloom and the shape is like your first one but with the weird petal action of the second, which I'm not too fond of. Oh, well...

I'd say around ~4 years old.


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