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ajdamania2 04-12-2014 06:30 PM

Bush snail on strange medium
 
Hi all, yesterday I bought a den. Farmeri at the rhs orchid show and noticed some bush snails on the sphagnum moss. I thought I can get rid of the medium and the snails if I remove it all. However the sphagnum moss was on the surface and the roots were densely packed with some perlite and something like spikes of a sea urchin. Do you know what it is? Whatever it is ,it does hold lots of water and the roots look gone. What should I do?

Daethen 04-12-2014 08:04 PM

Sounds like tree fern perhaps. I would get rid of all medium and bad roots and then repot.

isurus79 04-12-2014 11:56 PM

Any pics?

ajdamania2 04-13-2014 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Daethen (Post 671687)
Sounds like tree fern perhaps. I would get rid of all medium and bad roots and then repot.

That's what I was thinking . I guess I will have say good bye to the buds.

ajdamania2 04-13-2014 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by isurus79 (Post 671734)
Any pics?

I have attached a picture. This is the weirdest medium I have ever seen. It took me 90 minutes to remove it .

isurus79 04-13-2014 10:35 AM

Daethen was right, its tree fern which is also known as osmunda. You might want to let your plant sit without media for a few days and dry out to see if there are any snails left. Once they get in, their VERY difficult to get out. Better to be overly cautious with bush snails.

RosieC 04-14-2014 06:58 AM

I have a couple of home remedies to get rid of snails.

1. Put slices of potato over the medium at night/when it's dark. In the morning snails are feeding on the potato and it can be thrown away. Even if this method does not remove them all it helps see if there likely to be any more there.

2. Soak the pot (roots and medium included) in half strength coffee. After about 10min look on the plant just above the medium for snails which have crawled out and remove. The coffee also seems to kill them in the pot. Rince with plain water.

I've successfully got rid of them with a combination of these two methods.

isurus79 04-14-2014 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RosieC (Post 671998)
I have a couple of home remedies to get rid of snails.

1. Put slices of potato over the medium at night/when it's dark. In the morning snails are feeding on the potato and it can be thrown away. Even if this method does not remove them all it helps see if there likely to be any more there.

2. Soak the pot (roots and medium included) in half strength coffee. After about 10min look on the plant just above the medium for snails which have crawled out and remove. The coffee also seems to kill them in the pot. Rince with plain water.

I've successfully got rid of them with a combination of these two methods.

Bush snails aren't attracted to any baits, but soaking the roots in coffee should work. Yesterday I was eliminating my last colony of bush snails and dipping the roots in some serious chemicals. I'd much prefer to use coffee instead!

Orchid Whisperer 04-14-2014 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by isurus79 (Post 671789)
Daethen was right, its tree fern which is also known as osmunda. You might want to let your plant sit without media for a few days and dry out to see if there are any snails left. Once they get in, their VERY difficult to get out. Better to be overly cautious with bush snails.

Well, it is tree fern, but not Osmunda.

Osmunda (O.Regalis) is a large fern that typically grows waist high. It is wild in eastern North America, Texas to Manitoba and eastward. The roots were once harvested extensively for growing orchids, etc. But the "fibers" are different. With Osmunda, the fibers are from the root mass - typically they are softer & often a lighter color of brown.

Some people still grow orchids in Osmunda, and you can still find it for sale occasionally. While cleaning out the garage, I recently came across some that I bought 15+ years ago - may eventually plant something in it.

isurus79 04-14-2014 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Orchid Whisperer (Post 672085)
Well, it is tree fern, but not Osmunda.

Osmunda (O.Regalis) is a large fern that typically grows waist high. It is wild in eastern North America, Texas to Manitoba and eastward. The roots were once harvested extensively for growing orchids, etc. But the "fibers" are different. With Osmunda, the fibers are from the root mass - typically they are softer & often a lighter color of brown.

Some people still grow orchids in Osmunda, and you can still find it for sale occasionally. While cleaning out the garage, I recently came across some that I bought 15+ years ago - may eventually plant something in it.

I had no idea! Thanks for letting me know!


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