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Joyorchid 09-07-2013 12:19 PM

Hope for crown rot!
 
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Got this little guy for 75 cents at the frocery store. It had 3 healthy leaves and the beginning of a new leaf but the new leaf was dried up. Eventually turned to crown rot and lost all but one leaf. I was ready to give up on it last week when I saw the beginnings of something from the base.

I think its a basal keiki!

Joyorchid 09-07-2013 12:21 PM

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Heres another shot. BTW, roots have always looked nice, plump and green!

thepiecesfit 09-07-2013 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Joyorchid (Post 605693)
Heres another shot. BTW, roots have always looked nice, plump and green!

Sorry but that orchid looks like a goner. I lost one this week due to heat burn on vacation and my cat. Crown started to rot and then all the leaves broke off looked similar to yours. Once the center rots the plant will not have the energy or ability to grow a new leaf. Might as well buy a healthier orchid and start from scratch. Don't worry everyone has killed some along the way.

Most phals dont adapt well after being switched to hydroton, especially when the plant was not healthy to begin with. The mistake is attempting to adapt roots from another medium that are not used to being in such a medium. Most roots will rot. My success has been in a bark mix, although I have tried to jump on the hydroton bandwagon. Seems like there are far fewer success stories with that medium.

Island Girl 09-07-2013 02:18 PM

^ I agree with the above, although, if you did want to save it (if it's valuable to you, either sentimental, or monetarily) you can save it, it's got a basal growth going, so it's possible. However, you wouldn't see flowers for probably two years - give or take - If you do decide to keep it (or to try for a learning experience) be very careful with your watering, it's very very easy to rot that growth, and they're so small, it's hard to tell if you've gotten water in/on it. The one time I've had this situation (I've killed a couple more than that, but I just got a basal kieke on only one) I rotted the new growth, and another never came up, the roots went shortly after.

Joyorchid 09-07-2013 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by thepiecesfit (Post 605721)
Sorry but that orchid looks like a goner. I lost one this week due to heat burn on vacation and my cat. Crown started to rot and then all the leaves broke off looked similar to yours. Once the center rots the plant will not have the energy or ability to grow a new leaf. Might as well buy a healthier orchid and start from scratch. Don't worry everyone has killed some along the way.

Most phals dont adapt well after being switched to hydroton, especially when the plant was not healthy to begin with. The mistake is attempting to adapt roots from another medium that are not used to being in such a medium. Most roots will rot. My success has been in a bark mix, although I have tried to jump on the hydroton bandwagon. Seems like there are far fewer success stories with that medium.

I thought this one was a goner too! I was on the way to the trash when I discovered the new growth. And as for hydroton, I have found that in my dry, arid environment that most phals switch over without missing a beat, especially if they were in spag previously, which this one was. It has been in s/h for 2 months with no ill effects on its root system and the remaining leaf has no change since the switch either. Almost all my collection (about 20 phals) is now in s/h and are growing new roots, leaves.

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Originally Posted by Island Girl (Post 605729)
^ I agree with the above, although, if you did want to save it (if it's valuable to you, either sentimental, or monetarily) you can save it, it's got a basal growth going, so it's possible. However, you wouldn't see flowers for probably two years - give or take - If you do decide to keep it (or to try for a learning experience) be very careful with your watering, it's very very easy to rot that growth, and they're so small, it's hard to tell if you've gotten water in/on it. The one time I've had this situation (I've killed a couple more than that, but I just got a basal kieke on only one) I rotted the new growth, and another never came up, the roots went shortly after.

Its not that I am especially attached to this one, but I am more curious about what will happen. Its a mini phal, so it doesn't take up very much space or require much work on my part. I will heed your excellent advice about the careful watering though! Thanks!

Joyorchid 11-16-2013 09:59 AM

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I thought you all might like an update.

This little mini is thriving in s/h. More new leaves, but the old wrinkled leaf was causing some damage to the new ones so I cut it off.

Joyorchid 11-16-2013 10:00 AM

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Here's a better photo.

Orchid Whisperer 11-16-2013 10:08 AM

Looks like you saved it! Good job!

It just goes to show, it is never over with these plants until the last green is gone.

No-Pro-mwa 11-17-2013 11:11 AM

Good job glad you saved it. The very first one I did this to I also saved and am still waiting for a bloom. It looks good but I still see no spike yet. I have another that is just setting and doing nothing.

FSUOrchids 11-17-2013 03:27 PM

Good job, crown rot is often fatal, I've found


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