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orchideya 02-17-2013 07:55 AM

Seedlings problem, please help
 
Hello,
I have deflasked seedlings of Phal. Hawaii Dragon Girl in July and they were growing quite nicely, but lately I notice random yellow leaf appearing on some of them.
It is usually not the newest leaf but still concerns me, since it was my first deflasking and I am terrified to kill them all.
What can be a problem?
Thanks.
Here are the exampes of such leaves:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WelwHAAtXG...ragon_girl.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-R0gGJcqta3...agon_girl3.jpg

Connie Star 02-17-2013 08:31 AM

Too little nitrogen, maybe? See First Rays free information on nutrition, or maybe the American Orchid Societys info sheets.
They look quite healthy.

orchideya 02-17-2013 01:16 PM

Thanks Connie. I read through Ray's info on microelements and signs of their deficiency. Now looking at my seedlings it seems that they are pale too, maybe they don't get enough iron. I am using all purpose balanced 20-20-20 at quarter strength. Maybe it is time to get the ferts designed specifically for orchids.
Are there any suggestions?
I read a lot about benefits of MSU, but at the same time there were some horror stories about burning orchids with MSU.
Are there any other good ferts?

Brooke 02-17-2013 04:18 PM

If the yellow leaves are the oldest leaves I don't think you have a problem. Old leaves start to die from the tip toward the stem. I would be more worried if the tip was green and the yellow was next to the stem.

I don't know the pedigree of your cross but the color wouldn't bother me either. Many Phals are a light green as opposed to the very dark green. I've deflasked hundreds of Phals and yours actually appear quite strong.

MSU fertilizer should not burn anything if you use it at the recommended strength. I can only use MSU for pure water and have never had a problem with it burning anything.

Brooke

orchideya 02-18-2013 08:53 AM

Thank you Brooke. I feel much better now. The parents are Penang Girl and DTE, I think they both have non-dark leaves. And they are yelowing from the tips.

Brooke 02-18-2013 03:40 PM

I currently have a Penang Girl cross, sorry can't remember the other parent, and it definitely has about the same color foliage.

Your seedlings look great to me and now you need to get another flask!

Brooke

orchideya 02-19-2013 01:08 PM

Oh yes, I will! Just let the spring come... :)

Mervin 02-20-2013 09:54 AM

Newly de-flasked seedings will lose their 'baby' leaves which are normally long and narrow.

Broader new leaves will grow out to replace the lost.

Your seedling are doing what it's suppose to do.

At least that's what I have experienced.

Looking good !

zxyqu 02-20-2013 10:31 AM

I agree with Mervin. Seedlings dont have the roots systems to support lots of leaves, and as such, more rapidly shed off the lower leaves. So long as your top leaves look good (which from these pics, they look great), you should be fine. These seedlings look really nice.

silken 02-20-2013 10:45 AM

I have a Penang Girl and the leaves are almost lime green even kept under low light. Don't know about the other parent.


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