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Yukonphal 06-06-2012 11:34 PM

concrete effects on orchids?
 
Does concrete adversely effect orchids? I had a strange idea for mounting , but not sure if it would do more harm than good

Bud 06-06-2012 11:59 PM

I have seen concrete cinderblock cemented walls with Ivy clinging and thriving on them...maybe orchids might thrive on its porous surface because it retains water...

james mickelso 06-07-2012 12:59 AM

It would have no adverse effects on orchids mounted on it.

Arenalbotanicalgarden 06-07-2012 03:28 AM

Green(fresh) concrete could cause some issues(alkaline-ph 12).Once it's aged a bit, no biggie.
A freshly built pond will kill fish and plants if not cured a bit before putting them in. I suspect an orchid attempting to grab on would have the same problem.

Ray 06-07-2012 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Arenalbotanicalgarden (Post 501933)
Green(fresh) concrete could cause some issues(alkaline-ph 12).Once it's aged a bit, no biggie.
A freshly built pond will kill fish and plants if not cured a bit before putting them in. I suspect an orchid attempting to grab on would have the same problem.

Quite correct.

Often, the concrete is "passivated" with muriatic (hydrochloric) acid to strip the surface of free alkaline minerals.

Have you considered hypertufa? I'm sure you can find the formula on the web, but it's basically Portland cement and peat moss, with the latter lowering the pH sufficiently.

tucker85 06-07-2012 08:51 AM

A commercial grower here in South Florida has several orchids mounted on concrete blocks. They seem to grow very well.

Here's a picture I copied from another member that I tought was interesting.

http://www.orchidboard.com/community...enopsis1-1.jpg

Ray 06-07-2012 10:48 AM

Yeah, but that's some pretty old concrete.

zxyqu 06-07-2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray (Post 501992)
Yeah, but that's some pretty old concrete.

Haha... My thoughts exactly...

Yukonphal 06-07-2012 08:30 PM

There must be a way to "age" concrete quickly

Arenalbotanicalgarden 06-07-2012 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Yukonphal (Post 502111)
There must be a way to "age" concrete quickly

Bucket of acid water (pool acid-muriatic) soak.Always add acid to water. NEVER add water to acid.
I'd reckon you could sponge it down with vinegar(acetic acid) for a few days.


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