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Rinzo 03-29-2012 09:13 PM

what now?
 
this is my first time ever flasking orchids, i'm doing vandopsis gigantea seeds and they are becoming protocorms. Now here is where i am confused, i have them in glass tazo tea jars that i just reused. I have seen people talking about making an air hole because there are some sort of harmful gasses or something that build up, and it seems like some people say you have to do it while others say you don't have to. what do i do??!?! cause i don't want contamination to get in. Keep in mind they are in really early stages of protocorm but i can see more and more development by the day.

Greg

Leafmite 03-30-2012 12:06 AM

I wouldn't poke holes until someone knowlegeable gives you an answer. I have seen flasks but never with holes for air, likely due to the possibility of contamination.

Rinzo 03-30-2012 12:28 AM

alright, thanks!

zxyqu 03-30-2012 12:32 AM

I think by holes you actually mean transferring to a new flask with new media that contains a hole in the lid covered by some sort of material (like a bandaid strip, etc). This allows gaseous exchange without contaminating the flask. But remember you need to do this in sterile conditions as you did before.

Rinzo 03-30-2012 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zxyqu (Post 483112)
I think by holes you actually mean transferring to a new flask with new media that contains a hole in the lid covered by some sort of material (like a bandaid strip, etc). This allows gaseous exchange without contaminating the flask. But remember you need to do this in sterile conditions as you did before.

ohhhhhhhhh that makes sense, but when do i know when to transfer them? when they get their first roots?

roby 03-31-2012 08:54 AM

Hello
there are 2 "philosophies"
1) without hole
2) with the hole covered with appropriate filters which prevent the contamination.

Personally I prefer no holes, grow just as well.

The jars are usually replace every 3 4 months.

Ben Belton 04-01-2012 12:33 AM

Yeah, the "hole" is actually a vent to allow the jar to breath. Some people do it and some don't. I'm not exactly sure the complete reason(s) but the idea is that if your flasks get too warm, and the air has no way to get out (such as with a vent) then pressure builds up like a pressure cooker and the seedlings will boil. I've seen it happen. However, If you keep your flasks where the temps don't vary a whole lot and don't get too warm, then they should be fine without a vent.

I guess the short answer is

Controlled moderate temps where you flasks are stored-> no vent

Large temp swings and warm temps where your flsks are stored-> vent

Rinzo 04-01-2012 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roby (Post 483512)
Hello
there are 2 "philosophies"
1) without hole
2) with the hole covered with appropriate filters which prevent the contamination.

Personally I prefer no holes, grow just as well.

The jars are usually replace every 3 4 months.

thanks Roby, I appreciate it

Shiffdaddy 05-17-2012 05:06 PM

What's up Greg ;-)

Ben

Rinzo 05-19-2012 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiffdaddy (Post 497009)
What's up Greg ;-)

Ben

ey Ben!


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