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Candice 07-18-2007 12:57 PM

Where to start to ID Phals
 
Can someone tell me how to identify my Phals...I don't have an orchid society around me and absolutely clueless on where to begin to identify all my phal 'chids. Please help me...I want to learn and do it right, instaed of just saying phalaenopsis, I can say the more ...maybe... my 'chids are not blooming anymore, but I remember what my some of them looked like, and the otehrs I acquired and when are in bloom I would like to identify, or try to identify. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS!!! ALL ARE WELCOME!!!!!
~Candice

Tindomul 07-18-2007 01:07 PM

Well, you can start here. If you post photos of you NOID's every now and then we can ID it for you.
No name hybrids are often nearly impossible to ID on sight.
If you want to ID species,
We can probably help you out quickly.
I'm sure there are books (keys) out there to help you recognize your plants.
Not sure, but Phalaenopsis: A Monographby Eric A. Christenson could help.


Dorothy 07-18-2007 01:40 PM

I hope these sites can help you -

These are phal species sites
Phalaenopsis
Vortex's Orchids - Phalaenopsis Index

This site is a list of primary hybrids -
Phal Species A-Z

This is a site of phal hybrids and crosses -
hybrid_list

Tindomul 07-18-2007 03:50 PM

Very cool Dorothy! You saved the day!

Candice 07-18-2007 04:06 PM

here is my last flower on one of the many phals
 
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Ok ...Thank you both...I looked on all of those websites...I couldn't find this one, unless I am being to critical....Can you identify this one? I scanned it, so yes it is a little smushed.....I couldn't really get any other good id's on my others,but I will have to wait till they spike and then flower, then scan them here!
Thank you again!

dave b 07-18-2007 10:59 PM

Great info Dorothy. Thanks

bejay 07-18-2007 11:39 PM

It can be anything, but my best GUESS is
Doritaenopsis (Dtps) Taida Salu 'Alisan'.:scratchhead:

Rick Barry 07-18-2007 11:44 PM

Hi Candace,

The honest truth is that you can't identify most hybrids with any degree of certainty. Most of us can't even identify most species reliably.

Post a picture of a hybrid online and you will receive guesses in return. That is all they will be: guesses. Many growers can tell you what a plant appears to be, but you should never accept their guesses as gospel.

Few things irritate serious orchid growers more than mis-identified plants. This isn't an indication of elitism or snobbery. They know that the valid identification of the vast majority of orchids depends exclusively upon the proper marking of plants from seedpod to maturity. Technically, any break in this sequence renders the plant unidentifiable. The only exceptions are species and primary hybrids, of which some seem easily recognizable. Even so, don't accept anyone's identification unless you are certain they are very knowlegeable. If someone identifies your plant, search the internet for photos of that flower. Compare your orchid to pictures in books if you can. If it is a species plant it should look basically the same. If you see any differences in form and/or color, it is probably not that species.

I hate to sound like a spoilsport, but a Phalaenopsis hybrid without an ID tag is simply a pot plant. It may even be a Doritaenopsis. Most volume sellers of orchid plants don't even bother with the distinction between the two. Certainly you can't tell the difference based upon appearance.

If you like orchids for only for their beauty, buy them where they are affordable as well as available. Don't worry about their names. Grow them and enjoy them.

On the other hand, if you develop an interest in the breeding of orchids, buy them from growers that are dedicated to maintaining proper identification of their products. Bloom your NOIDs and give them to friends who don't really care what they are called.

Above all, enjoy your experience with these fascinating and beautiful beings!

Regards,
Rick

Dorothy 07-19-2007 01:46 PM

It's a beauty! NOID or named -
You can call it whatever you like ..
it's still an exquisite orchid ;)

You are all welcome for the sites - I try to keep any site I find with general species and hybrid info in my favorites and I am more than happy to share them :)

cb977 07-19-2007 02:01 PM

It's nice to have a name to go with your 'chid but it isn't really necessary unless you are showing or breeding your 'chids.

Buy your orchids for your enjoyment...that's what it's all about ;)

Very pretty NOID you have there :) I have a number of them myself :D as do many of us.


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