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orchideya 07-12-2011 09:35 AM

Confused about vanda names
 
Hello,

Could anyone please tell me if:

vanda flavobrunnea = vanda pumila = trudelia pumila

and

vanda testacea = vanda parviflora

Or they are all different species?

Thank you so much.

cricketerry 07-12-2011 10:24 AM

THe RHS gives vanda flavobrunnea = vanda pumila

and

vanda testacea = vanda parviflora

I do not know about trudelia pumila. This is not mentioned on the RHS site

King_of_orchid_growing:) 07-12-2011 10:59 AM

The answers are:

Vanda flavobrunnea = Trudelia pumila = Vanda pumila

Vanda testacea = Vanda parviflora

If you're asking which is the current accepted name...

Vanda parviflora

For the other one, I believe it's now Vanda pumila again.

At one point it was named V. pumila, then got changed to Trudelia pumila, then apparently back again to V. pumila.

orchideya 07-12-2011 11:18 AM

Thank you for the info.
I didn't know they can change it back and forth.
I looked at RHS and they list v. flavobrunnea as natural hybrid with synonym pumila. Who are the parents? Is one of them v.brunnea?

King_of_orchid_growing:) 07-12-2011 02:10 PM

To my understanding V. pumila is a species, not a natural hybrid.

There may be another Vanda that goes by V. flavobrunnea, this is not an uncommon problem in taxonomy.

Don't be surprised to find man-made hybrids with species-like names too. It used to happen quite often during a period in time. I believe that it has since stopped as people may have started getting plants confused.

This is particularly why I tend to be a stickler with the proper way to write a species name and a hybrid's name.

It has happened before where people asked about a particular plant thinking that it's a species, but when in reality it was a hybrid that was named like a species.

These problems often make finding proper information about them more difficult.

orchideya 07-13-2011 08:02 AM

Thank you Philip.
I started to look at this because I saw exactly same looking plant under name v. testacea from one vendor website and under name v. parviflora from another.

lambelkip 07-13-2011 09:18 AM

Vanda parviflora is a variety of Vanda testacea., and should probably be listed as Vanda testacea var. parviflora.

Vanda pumila = Trudelia pumila

Vanda flavobrunnea is considered an unplaced name. Since there are no known specimens, it is impossible to determine whether or not it's the same as the yellow & brown form of Vanda pumila. It has also been suggested that Vanda flavobrunnea may have been a naturally occurring hybrid.


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