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Neural_Toxin 03-22-2024 11:42 AM

L. jongheana x mantiqueirae
 
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The tag suggests it’s a L. jonheana x mantiqueirae. Not sure if it’s the same as a QF mantra or not. No fragrance. Or at least I didn’t notice.

isurus79 03-22-2024 12:51 PM

That's an interesting little primary!

Neural_Toxin 03-22-2024 09:58 PM

The flowers seem very flat. Is there a preference on that?

isurus79 03-22-2024 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Neural_Toxin (Post 1016215)
The flowers seem very flat. Is there a preference on that?

Yes, for judging.

Roberta 03-23-2024 12:38 AM

It looks like the L. jongheana parent is dominant - L mantiqueirae boosted the color. And L. johgheana tends to be quite flat. This is lovely!

Ray 03-23-2024 07:35 AM

If that is, indeed, the hybrid, then it is C. QF Mantra, but to my relatively untrained eye, that looks more like C. jongheana.

Neural_Toxin 03-23-2024 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by isurus79 (Post 1016216)
Yes, for judging.

Interesting. Some species are known for their cupped flowers. Is there a separate set of standard for them? Or, is hybrid the only way to improve the score?

Thank you!

---------- Post added at 10:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:18 PM ----------

I’d guess, potentially, or more likely hopefully, L. mantiqueirae can increase flower count too. This plant originally had 3 buds but 1 blasted. Since it’s the first bloom, we’ll see how it does in the future.

On the other hand, I’m not sure if this is QF mantra because, based on IOSPE, L. mantiqueirae is L. caulescens, rather than C. (Sophronitis) mantiqueirae that’s used in QF mantra.

But I’m quite new to this so I’m not sure…

RJSquirrel 03-23-2024 10:48 PM

Cattleya QF Mantra

:waving

isurus79 03-27-2024 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Neural_Toxin (Post 1016241)
Interesting. Some species are known for their cupped flowers. Is there a separate set of standard for them? Or, is hybrid the only way to improve the score?

Yes, the parents and their cupping is taken into account when judging. However, line breeding towards increased flatness does tend to increase the score.


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