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OrchidNut555 01-30-2023 01:27 PM

kelpak and physan 20 in the eu?
 
I've been looking for kelpak in the eu, as i'm in belgium, even mailed 2 different people who have to do with kelpak: someone to contact about kelpak in the eu and besgrow in the netherlands. no reaction despite others having had success with it. Does anyone know how i can get my hands on kelpak? or an alternative in the eu that's almost or just as good as it?

same thing for physan 20...i'd like to add a fungicide that isn't harmful to orchids to my media once ina good while, but i'm unsure which ones are good and not harmful to orchids in the eu

any tips welcome

Ray 01-30-2023 02:04 PM

Besgrow is probably your best bet for Kelpak - you might try phoning them.

I have no idea about Physan or its equivalent, but I recommend not doing preventive treatments of anything.

Edeke 01-30-2023 04:12 PM

Fertilizer | Care & Protect | Accessories | Ecuagenera Europe

Here you can order 250 ml or 1 ltr bottles of Physan 20.

tmoney 01-30-2023 11:41 PM

the first time i contacted besgrow it took a couple days to get a reply. then, thru the email i just told them how much i wanted, the guy emailed me back with the cost and bank transfer details. it seems very small business like for such a large company. anyways, best of luck!

makes me think i should order some for this year now tho...hopefully all is good over there at besgrow...

OrchidNut555 01-31-2023 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tmoney (Post 998579)
the first time i contacted besgrow it took a couple days to get a reply. then, thru the email i just told them how much i wanted, the guy emailed me back with the cost and bank transfer details. it seems very small business like for such a large company. anyways, best of luck!

makes me think i should order some for this year now tho...hopefully all is good over there at besgrow...

lucky, i still haven't gotten a reply.

İlyas06 01-31-2023 06:45 AM

orchid fertilization
 
Hello everyone, I am a new member of the orchid family. I agree with you from Turkey. I have some phalaenopsis, my phalaenopsis are not blooming like in russia or holland. I need your help with fertilizer. Is Orchids focus bloom and grow effective? I can find it in Turkey.

OrchidNut555 01-31-2023 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by İlyas06 (Post 998583)
Hello everyone, I am a new member of the orchid family. I agree with you from Turkey. I have some phalaenopsis, my phalaenopsis are not blooming like in russia or holland. I need your help with fertilizer. Is Orchids focus bloom and grow effective? I can find it in Turkey.

it's bettee to post your own thread, i'd say


but phals need a temperature drop for a few weeks to initiate blooming. around autumn, place it in a cooler room (lowest i'd say is...16 degrees c or so. def not below 15) and any balanced fertilider (NPK 10-10-10) should be ok. use half the recommended ampunt in ur water and water every few weeks unless it's blooming.

Ray 01-31-2023 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by İlyas06 (Post 998583)
Hello everyone, I am a new member of the orchid family. I agree with you from Turkey. I have some phalaenopsis, my phalaenopsis are not blooming like in russia or holland. I need your help with fertilizer. Is Orchids focus bloom and grow effective? I can find it in Turkey.

Select the formula with the highest nitrogen content, as that’s the most important fertilizer ingredient.

Apologies to OrchidNut555, but “half the recommended amount” is a meaningless recommendation, as 1) fertilizer companies’ goal is to sell fertilizer, not to help you grow better plants, and 2) the amount of fertilizer is related to the frequency of application.

If you feed every two weeks (the longest I’d ever go between feedings; more frequently is preferred), divide 18.4 by the %N in the fertilizer (round up or down as needed for ease of measuring) - the result is ml/L to mix for about 200 ppm N. If you feed weekly, use half that.

Do so year round and don’t bother changing formulas, as that really does nothing.

OrchidNut555 01-31-2023 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray (Post 998590)
Select the formula with the highest nitrogen content, as that’s the most important fertilizer ingredient.

Apologies to OrchidNut555, but “half the recommended amount” is a meaningless recommendation, as 1) fertilizer companies’ goal is to sell fertilizer, not to help you grow better plants, and 2) the amount of fertilizer is related to the frequency of application.

If you feed every two weeks (the longest I’d ever go between feedings; more frequently is preferred), divide 18.4 by the %N in the fertilizer (round up or down as needed for ease of measuring) - the result is ml/L to mix for about 200 ppm N. If you feed weekly, use half that.

Do so year round and don’t bother changing formulas, as that really does nothing.


1) i don't care about the company's goal, i care about taking care of my plants
2) plenty of people do it this way and have amazingmy good growing and blossoming plants.

what i've been noticing on orchidboard is a sheer intolerance to a different approach and it's starting to bother me. from comments like these (why should i care about a compans goal???) to comments that fel haughtt like "i'm super people have told you moss is a bad media for orchids".
everyone has teiir own way and their own media. it's ok to share your experience and your recommendations and to correct people about misinformation, but tzlling others off...yeah no.

if it works it works. live and let love. i had a period where i forgot about some plants due to mental health and they still blossomed without any fertilizer, and no it was not a stress bloom. people get too caught up in small technicalities and if you dare divert from it, you get corrected....chill out

Dusty Ol' Man 01-31-2023 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrchidNut555 (Post 998593)
1) i don't care about the company's goal, i care about taking care of my plants
2) plenty of people do it this way and have amazingmy good growing and blossoming plants.

what i've been noticing on orchidboard is a sheer intolerance to a different approach and it's starting to bother me. from comments like these (why should i care about a compans goal???) to comments that fel haughtt like "i'm super people have told you moss is a bad media for orchids".
everyone has teiir own way and their own media. it's ok to share your experience and your recommendations and to correct people about misinformation, but tzlling others off...yeah no.

if it works it works. live and let love. i had a period where i forgot about some plants due to mental health and they still blossomed without any fertilizer, and no it was not a stress bloom. people get too caught up in small technicalities and if you dare divert from it, you get corrected....chill out

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