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Selmo 12-30-2015 02:02 PM

Orange cymbidium (NOID)
 
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We got this one as a gift last year. It was in bloom when we got it and it was much yellower. We thought it was a yellow cymbidium. But this year it bloomed and it is this lovely copper color. Is this a common occurrence when growing environments are changed.

estación seca 12-30-2015 02:20 PM

Wow, that is beautiful. Cool weather does bring out the pink pigments in a lot of different flowers. There are plenty of roses, orchids, bulbs that look different when they developed and are flowering in warmer weather or cooler weather.

Selmo 12-30-2015 02:23 PM

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Here is another cymbidium we have that bloomed earlier, about a month ago. It is Cymbidium Milton Cardenter 'Everglades Gold', and the copper colored one looked a lot like it last year, but not this year. Not complaining

Cym Ladye 12-30-2015 04:37 PM

It is not the temperature which is responsible for the color change so much as it is the amount of light. Orchids bloomed in shade may be an entirely different color hue, as you have discovered. Sunlight or a bright light environment brought out the red which was hiding in your yellow cross.

WhiteRabbit 12-30-2015 08:25 PM

beautiful!

gngrhill 12-30-2015 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cym Ladye (Post 785662)
It is not the temperature which is responsible for the color change so much as it is the amount of light. Orchids bloomed in shade may be an entirely different color hue, as you have discovered. Sunlight or a bright light environment brought out the red which was hiding in your yellow cross.

I have a question maybe you could answer. Different genera, bloomed red red first time, rebloom was more maroon. If light made the difference, would it need more light or less light to get the red red back ?

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Originally Posted by Selmo (Post 785646)
Here is another cymbidium we have that bloomed earlier, about a month ago. It is Cymbidium Milton Cardenter 'Everglades Gold', and the copper colored one looked a lot like it last year, but not this year. Not complaining

I wouldn't complain about that either......that copper one is GORGEOUS ! ! !

Wolfchan 12-31-2015 12:43 AM

Lovely flowers, and I'm fascinated by the info about the color changes!

Selmo 12-31-2015 03:10 AM

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Found a picture of it last year. This year it does have four spikes again. You can see a little of the copper color at the base if the flower. I do believe that the amount of light plays a important role in the color

ThePinkCucumber 01-01-2016 10:30 AM

Beautiful colour and the lip! :)

Cym Ladye 01-02-2016 11:54 AM

[QUOTE=gngrhill;785711]I have a question maybe you could answer. Different genera, bloomed red red first time, rebloom was more maroon. If light made the difference, would it need more light or less light to get the red red back ?[COLOR="Silver"]

I will guess you might be referring to the Catt Alliance. I suspect a brighter natural light or bright greenhouse condition will give a Catt the lighter red/red color.

WilECoyote 01-03-2016 05:04 AM

In my experience temperature does seem to have an influence on flower colour in Cymbidiums (although not necessarily the cause of the colour change you have seen here), I cant post a link or photos yet but there is a discussion with pictures about this on orchidforum dot eu, look for the thread Spots Ahoy on the cymbidium page

Cym Ladye 01-03-2016 12:05 PM

The good part of Forum discussion is that you get many people chiming in with different opinions. The down size is that you have to know enough about the subject to be able to sort the wheat from the chaff. Listen to your common sense and most often it will keep you on the right track.

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Originally Posted by WilECoyote (Post 786034)
In my experience temperature does seem to have an influence on flower colour in Cymbidiums (although not necessarily the cause of the colour change you have seen here), I cant post a link or photos yet but there is a discussion with pictures about this on orchidforum dot eu, look for the thread Spots Ahoy on the cymbidium page

In viewing the link, the difference here is the marking on the lip as opposed to the color of the flower, which we are discussing here. Yes, temperature will affect the markings on the lip, although I have not seen this dramatic a change. Light affects the overall color of the sepals and petals.

gngrhill 01-03-2016 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gngrhill (Post 785711)
I have a question maybe you could answer. Different genera, bloomed red red first time, rebloom was more maroon. If light made the difference, would it need more light or less light to get the red red back ?[COLOR="Silver"]

I will guess you might be referring to the Catt Alliance. I suspect a brighter natural light or bright greenhouse condition will give a Catt the lighter red/red color.

Yes, it is a CTNA which is a Catt alliance. Thank you for your advice, maybe when it goes outside this summer I will get the red back.

Selmo 01-19-2016 12:48 PM

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Here is an update (new photo) on the cooper colored cymbidium. You cannot take a bad picture of this one

gngrhill 01-19-2016 11:38 PM

That is beautiful !

Bobits 01-20-2016 07:30 PM

So pretty! Love the copper.

No-Pro-mwa 01-23-2016 11:43 AM

It really is a beauty, I want it! I will only hope that some day I will get mine to bloom.

Bobfharris 01-24-2016 04:41 PM

Looks like an Enzan Forest 'Majolica'
At least in the updated photo it does

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Originally Posted by Selmo (Post 785642)
We got this one as a gift last year. It was in bloom when we got it and it was much yellower. We thought it was a yellow cymbidium. But this year it bloomed and it is this lovely copper color. Is this a common occurrence when growing environments are changed.

This plant will be darker in more light and lighter in less light

JambaJungle 02-08-2016 06:32 PM

Cymbidiums will definitely lighten in color as the flower ages. Bright light as the flowers open may also dilute the intensity of the color. Although cymbidiums require very bright light year around, putting them in deep shade as flowers open will result in more vivid colors.
The orange color is gorgeous. A real stunner!

Selmo 02-09-2016 03:41 PM

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Thanks to all, for the likes on this and to Bobharris on the ID. Here is the latest new photo in full bloom. As JambaJungle said the oldest of the spikes is the lightest. Hope you all are in good health and good spirits as spring draws near. I don't know why it keeps on uploading the photo sideways. I tried to upload it several times and it always uploaded it sideways. Enjoy it sideways then.

Becky15349 02-09-2016 05:30 PM

[QUOTE=gngrhill;785711]I have a question maybe you could answer. Different genera, bloomed red red first time, rebloom was more maroon. If light made the difference, would it need more light or less light to get the red red back ?[COLOR="Silver"]

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I would say if the second time it bloomed darker, use less light...but it could be other factors effecting the bloom color too, its hard to say.

Cym Ladye 02-10-2016 11:41 AM

Bright light will affect colors of Cyms differently. For whites and greens, deep shade will clarify whites and result in deeper, clearer greens. Sun will cause most greens to yellow and whites to blush. However, sunlight on reds, roses, yellows and oranges IN THE BUD STAGE will result in deeper and more vivid colors but if kept in sun after they open, will cause premature fading, especially of the red shades.

flexdc 03-12-2016 03:17 PM

That is a fantastic color!


Andrew L.A.

Tindomul 11-05-2016 12:06 AM


Very nice, very showy.


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