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MrHappyRotter 11-09-2014 03:39 PM

Phragmipedium klotzschianum
 
The first word that comes to mind when I think of Phragmipedium klotzschianum is ADORABLE. It had been sitting on my wish list for quite some time, and this year, I finally acquired a couple of them.

I can't give a ton of first hand advice on growing them, other than I feed them much less than I feed my other phrags, which is already less than I feed other genera. I also keep them closer to the bulbs to provide higher light. These like/need to stay wet (and thus warm), though I already grow most of my phrags that way. Tom (Fox Valley) was telling me that these would sometimes turn up in the tropical aquarium plant trade, and even in nature, they are often found submerged in water for part of the year. So, that should be a clue at how much water they like.

These phrags are small. Were my hand made of a suitable substrate and constantly bathed in water, a whole colony could grow on it. They grow a little on the slow side, and the root systems don't appear to be quite as massive as other species. The leaves are very stiff, reminiscent of Neofinetia, perhaps. This first bloom will probably only have 1 or 2 flowers. The slightly nodding flower is proportionally large compared to the size of the foliage. The sepals and lateral petals are pink/purple tinted, with purple veining. The lip is quite uniquely shaped.

In summary, this is a pretty amazing, miniature phrag. If you like small growers, this species and its hybrids should be in your collection.

http://i.imgur.com/G4MRRKRl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qtDSrfvl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/iD8XDQFl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/LBO56sLl.jpg

801229001 11-09-2014 06:31 PM

This is AMAZING! where did you get this? also, do the aquarium people grow this fully submerged??

MrHappyRotter 11-09-2014 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 801229001 (Post 713695)
This is AMAZING! where did you get this? also, do the aquarium people grow this fully submerged??

I picked this one up from Seattle Orchids, and I got another one from Fox Valley Orchids.

I would assume the aquarium folks were growing them fully submerged, since they're small plants. I don't know if the plants actually lived and thrived fully submerged for any significant length of time.

I certainly wouldn't try it in my tanks, at least not right now. They're a bit too expensive and hard to find to consider using one as a guinea pig.

Pet stores commonly sell various terrestrial plants as "aquarium" plants, things like mondo grass and Dracena. Things like that almost always die when grown fully submerged for long periods, but from time to time I've heard folks claim that their {insert random terrestrial plant name} has been doing fine for {insert random number} of years submersed.

And the truth is, quite a number of the commonly available aquarium plants are things that mostly lead fully terrestrial lives in nature. Many of them experience long periods of being submerged or have to deal with frequent flooding, and therefore have become able to live underwater at all times.

nikkik 11-09-2014 09:06 PM

Wow, that is an interesting plant! I appreciate all of the valuable information that you included in your posts, thank you!

No-Pro-mwa 11-10-2014 10:37 AM

The leaves are so small. It's wonderful. Thanks for the information.

WhiteRabbit 11-10-2014 07:20 PM

Sweet! That's my size of Phrag!

NeofinetiaCanada2014 11-16-2014 02:41 AM

I saw one in bloom at Fox Valley a few years ago and was struck by how white the lip can be ... The one I saw had the white part extended to the top of the pouch... So I bought one!! But I sold it before I bloomed it to a phragmapedium breeder who needed it more than me for his breeding program... Since then he has made numerous crosses. Can't wait to see them bloom in a few years!

On a cultural note, I did notice that they grow with long rhizomes between growths. Also I did sit them in RO water, feed very lightly and flush often. Never knew they might grow under water. Very interesting!


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MrHappyRotter 11-16-2014 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NeofinetiaCanada2014 (Post 715120)
I saw one in bloom at Fox Valley a few years ago and was struck by how white the lip can be ... The one I saw had the white part extended to the top of the pouch... So I bought one!! But I sold it before I bloomed it to a phragmapedium breeder who needed it more than me for his breeding program... Since then he has made numerous crosses. Can't wait to see them bloom in a few years!

On a cultural note, I did notice that they grow with long rhizomes between growths. Also I did sit them in RO water, feed very lightly and flush often. Never knew they might grow under water. Very interesting!


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Yeah, they tend to be rhizamatous, but then again, so are Phrag. pearcei and equadorense (smaller growing phrags in the same section), and of course, besseae, the mother of all rhizomatous phrags.

There are some more clones that are better than others in terms of short rhizomes.

katrina 11-16-2014 03:57 PM

I agree...ADORABLE. Absolutely adorable.

billc 12-31-2014 02:09 PM

You people are bad news for my budget. After seeing this I just ordered one from Tom @ Fox Valley along with a couple of traveling companions. Hope it is as cute as yours.

Bill

MrHappyRotter 12-31-2014 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by billc (Post 723972)
You people are bad news for my budget. After seeing this I just ordered one from Tom @ Fox Valley along with a couple of traveling companions. Hope it is as cute as yours.

Bill

Sounds like a terrific way to start the new year! I hope you enjoy them all.

While I'm here, I might as well give an update on the plant. It only produced a single flower on its first spike. But, that single flower lasted about a month. Very long lived for a Phragmipedium flower. I'm hoping this wasn't a fluke, and that this species's flowers all last this long. I'm also waiting on a couple of klotzscheanum hybrids to bloom. It would be interesting to see how much of this longevity it will impart to besseae and schlimii hybrids.

phragguy 12-31-2014 04:48 PM

very nice,hardly ever see this one

LovePhals 12-31-2014 10:00 PM

Love it!

lotis146 01-18-2015 01:56 PM

That sure is tiny and so cute. Good pick!

JKeys 01-18-2015 04:04 PM

One of my absolute favorites, amazing.


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