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shushu45 04-21-2014 12:47 AM

Neo. Seedling care help please.
 
Today I did an impulse buy on ebay and bought a flask of Neo. seedlings. The seller said she'll do the deflasking for me, spray them with a fungicide and put them into a compot.

What I am asking u all is that what do I do after that??
It's already potted up for me. So I don't need to get seedling mix.
How much light? Water? Fertilizer?? Humidity?? And anything els that is helpful.

Thank you.

MattWoelfsen 04-21-2014 11:14 AM

I replied to your posting on the other thread. Since you haven't received a reply, I'll share what I did to get my new Neofinetia falcata seedlings started.

The vendor did de-flask my seedlings. It was in a small plastic bag and padded. While you are waiting to receive this flask:
1) Find a suitable 'nursery' to house all your seedlings. You need to be able to cover your seedlings and keep their growing environment with high humidity. I used plastic Chinese Carry out containers. This container has a white plastic bottom and a clear top. It proved to be an excellent choice.
2. Get high quality sphagnum moss.
3. Line the bottom of the container with very damp sphagnum moss.
4. When your flask arrives, remove them from the bag, and wash the seedlings until all the seedlings are clear of agar or flask growing media. It will be like black jello.
5. Sort your seedlings into large, medium and small.
6. Place seedlings up right in your container and cover the roots with high quality, wet sphagnum moss.
7. Cover your containers with the lid, and allow them to sit in bright light, not direct sun.
8. I kept my seedlings in this configuration for at least a month.
9. Then I started hardening them by keeping the lid off of them for a day, covering them back up at night.
10. After a month of this, I kept the lid off. But watched the containers to make sure the sphagnum moss is almost dry.
11. Once these were all placed in containers, I have watered these containers using reverse osmosis (RO) water. The water was room temperature.
12. On the fourth month, I put these seedlings in compots. I posted a picture of those compots in another thread.
13. I continued to water these compots with RO water. But I treated them like older Neofinetia, allowing them to dry out between watering. But if they appeared too dry, I just watered these 11 pots.
14. The picture I posted is how they look now.
15. From here on out, these plants will be treated like other Neofinetia in my care.

I hope this helps. I'm pleased that I lost maybe 5 seedlings? When I put all of my seedlings in their compot, I did have 3 per pot.

shushu45 04-21-2014 11:24 AM

Thank you. I need a list of intrusions for doing this.

I think she's skipping strait to the compot stage. So she might be cleaning them for me. I'll have to look again or ask her if it's not stated in the description.

Again thank you.

MattWoelfsen 04-21-2014 08:02 PM

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Here is what I used to house my deflasked seedlings way back in July 2013.

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shushu45 04-21-2014 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MattWoelfsen (Post 673965)
Here is what I used to house my deflasked seedlings way back in July 2013.

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I know what u meant with take out containers. U have them in my pantry. I mostly use them with storing rice and grain though.

Any good alternative?? I don't know if I have any available.

MattWoelfsen 04-21-2014 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shushu45 (Post 673967)
I know what u meant with take out containers. U have them in my pantry. I mostly use them with storing rice and grain though.



Any good alternative?? I don't know if I have any available.


I think you'll have a couple of days before your babies arrive. Might I suggest you order General Tso Chicken, Kung Pao Shrimp, and Sweet and Sour Pork? I'm being serious!

What you want is a container that you can pop the lid off to check and water your plants but the top needs to be clear or slightly opaque to diffuse bright light. The little seedlings flourished in these containers. I have ordered a flask of Laelia hybrid and doing the same to them. There are plastic containers you can buy at the stores. Glad or Rubbermaid is making containers that have clear white lids. I suggested Chinese takeout because I love to repurpose plastic.

shushu45 04-21-2014 08:22 PM

Oh I forgot to ask. Do u think this will be a good enough fungicide??
Fungicide3
Active ingredient:
Clarified Hydrophobic Extract of Neem Oil

I use it on my roses; it's also an insecticide and a miticide.

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Originally Posted by MattWoelfsen (Post 673968)
I think you'll have a couple of days before your babies arrive. Might I suggest you order General Tso Chicken, Kung Pao Shrimp, and Sweet and Sour Pork? I'm being serious!

What you want is a container that you can pop the lid off to check and water your plants but the top needs to be clear or slightly opaque to diffuse bright light. The little seedlings flourished in these containers. I have ordered a flask of Laelia hybrid and doing the same to them. There are plastic containers you can buy at the stores. Glad or Rubbermaid is making containers that have clear white lids. I suggested Chinese takeout because I love to repurpose plastic.

Ok. I guess I'll have to break my diet for a few days. :rofl:

MattWoelfsen 04-21-2014 08:23 PM

Neo. Seedling care help please.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shushu45 (Post 673970)
Oh I forgot to ask. Do u think this will be a good enough fungicide??

Fungicide3

Active ingredient:

Clarified Hydrophobic Extract of Neem Oil



I use it on my roses; it's also an insecticide and a miticide.


No, I wouldn't use anymore chemicals on these new seedlings. The eBay vendor--Elvis? Or something like that, does spray these plants with fungicide before she ships them to you. When you first open your bag it will smell like fungicide or something chemical.

shushu45 04-21-2014 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MattWoelfsen (Post 673972)
No, I wouldn't use anymore chemicals on these new seedlings. The eBay vendor--Elvis? Or something like that, does spray these plants with fungicide before she ships them to you. When you first open your bag it will smell like fungicide or something chemical.

Ok. Just wanted to get all me info down on this. I'll say it again this is my first flask ever so I want to do things right.

Yep it was Elvis who I bought it from.

Joyorchid 04-21-2014 09:30 PM

Mmmm... Kung Poa Shrimp.

shushu45 04-22-2014 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Joyorchid (Post 673987)
Mmmm... Kung Poa Shrimp.

:rofl:

I started thinking about sesame chicken. :rofl:

shushu45 04-24-2014 08:11 PM

OK. Today I got them. I put them in two brownie tins with clear plastic lids. And sprained them with a diluted fungicide I have just in case. I sorted them into small and medium. And larde gets its own container. I'll post a pic up later tonight.

So far so good??

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How warm do I have to keep them??

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There r a total of 14. 4 large. 5 medium and 5 small.

shushu45 04-24-2014 08:13 PM

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What do u think??

Joyorchid 04-24-2014 09:51 PM

Cute!! How big are the containers?

shushu45 04-24-2014 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Joyorchid (Post 674634)
Cute!! How big are the containers?

The containers r 8x8 inch. I went to walmart and got the disposable brownie containers with clear lids.

Joyorchid 04-24-2014 10:15 PM

Wow! The seedlings are bigger than I imagined. So adorable!

shushu45 04-24-2014 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Joyorchid (Post 674639)
Wow! The seedlings are bigger than I imagined. So adorable!

I have them spread out a little though.

MattWoelfsen 04-27-2014 02:41 PM

Keep them under these containers for at least two to three weeks, opening them for an hour, but do not let them dry out, as these seedlings were 100% humidity in flask. Then after this period let them have open air for longer periods of time until after a month, let them stay uncovered. Keep careful attention and do not allow them to dry out--keep them almost dry before re watering. After the third or fourth month pick your strongest seedlings and pot them into one pot, 2-3 seedlings per pot. Do the same all the way down to the smallest seedlings. I have found that Neofinetia seem to do best when potted together. This is how I ended up with eleven potted plants.

shushu45 04-27-2014 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MattWoelfsen (Post 674713)
Keep them under these containers for at least two to three weeks, opening them for an hour, but do not let them dry out, as these seedlings were 100% humidity in flask. Then after this period let them have open air for longer periods of time until after a month, let them stay uncovered. Keep careful attention and do not allow them to dry out--keep them almost dry before re watering. After the third or fourth month pick your strongest seedlings and pot them into one pot, 2-3 seedlings per pot. Do the same all the way down to the smallest seedlings. I have found that Neofinetia seem to do best when potted together. This is how I ended up with eleven potted plants.

I should open the containers up now for one hour day?? Week?? Or wait three weeks and then open them up for a hour??

MattWoelfsen 04-27-2014 03:39 PM

During the first three weeks, I would open the containers and let them have some fresh air. Then close them.

shushu45 04-27-2014 03:40 PM

OK thank you.


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