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mrobert 12-13-2007 03:09 AM

Bartholina
 
Why is it so hard to find good information on bartholina. I haven't attempted to find one for sale, but I'm guessing it is going to be all but impossible to find. I'll gladly accept any information board members can provide.

mrobert 12-21-2007 08:39 PM

I'm bumping this because I can't believe no one knowys anything!

lepanthes89 12-21-2007 09:38 PM

Off the top of my head; is that the south african genus of terresrials with one small round leaf and a single lacy flower?

Dorothy 12-21-2007 10:56 PM

Bartholina is one of those obscure (not grown by many) terrestrials and are beauties :nod:
There are 3 known species - burmanniana, etheliae and pectinata. It's synonymous to Lathrisia.
Jay's Encyclopedia has etheliae -
IOSPE PHOTOS
Here is another site with some info -
SOF » Bartholina burmanniana
SOF » Bartholina ethelae
They are seen growing with Disas - perhaps someone that grows, raises and sells Disas would have them .. :hmm
I hope this is of some help :)

mrobert 12-22-2007 12:53 AM

Thanks for the information. I've contacted several major disa growers (the few that there are in the US) and none of them offer barthina, though they may have them in their private cllections. I also contacted major disa growers in South Africa, again, not for sale but in their private collections. If anyone on these boards can offer me something, anything, please let me know!

razka3 03-05-2008 11:48 PM

Wow, those are really neat, I want one. Have any luck finding one?

mrobert 03-06-2008 12:07 AM

Still nothing. I don't have he contacts I need on The Cape...I'm going to call this one impossible to get in the US until I'm proven differently.

King_of_orchid_growing:) 04-05-2008 12:48 PM

I think I read in an orchid book somewhere this is near impossible to grow because of mycorhizzal fungus associations.

You might want to check the gardening section of a major bookstore chain like Borders or something.

mrobert 04-05-2008 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_of_orchid_growing:) (Post 95973)
I think I read in an orchid book somewhere this is near impossible to grow because of mycorhizzal fungus associations.

You might want to check the gardening section of a major bookstore chain like Borders or something.

Thanks for the tip. I have my doubts that my local Borders, or any major bookstore, is going to have information on bartholinea mycorrhizal fungus interactions; in any event I wouldn't try to grow something like this from seed.

I know people have cultivated bartholinea in the US, I'm just trying to find them.

King_of_orchid_growing:) 04-06-2008 11:50 AM

Alright you got me curiuous about this Bartholina plant, so I looked it up.

There was another plant forum talking about this, I don't know if you tried this lead already...but one the members said a nursery in the western part of South Africa has a nursery called Duckitt Nurseries that may sell Bartholina, and they may also have some unusual Disas for sale as well.

Here's the link, just scroll down:

Darling, West Coast, South Africa

Their contact info is all there.

Let me know how things go, I'm interested in some of their Disas, maybe Bartholina later.

mrobert 04-06-2008 07:28 PM

I contacted Duckitt last year but am sorry to report that they did not reply; I used the info@duckittnursies.com, perhaps the other address you found will help. I'll try to e-mail them again.

There are some domestic nurseries offering disa. Two that came up in my search are goreorchids.com and camponeorchids.com. I believe they are both in Oregon.

Very few members of our local orchid society have had success with disa. The few members that have had success claim they are as easy as cymbidiums if you have pure water.

Are there any nurseries in your area offering disa?

King_of_orchid_growing:) 04-07-2008 01:26 AM

There aren't any specialty nurseries that cater to plants like Disa here.

Many of the plants in my collection are either from another county, another state, or another country. And none of them are Disa spp.

orchidhunter 04-09-2008 01:08 AM

Duckitt Nurseries are rather mysterious, aren't they? They have no presence at South African orchid shows that I'm aware of. Almost everything they produce goes to the international cut flower market. I know this because I saw a television interview once. When we visited the lovely little town of Darling, we couldn't even find the nursery, even though it's the single biggest industry in the town (which otherwise consists of a railway station and a church). You can find evidence of them, however: almost every piece in the Darling Municipal Museum was donated by the Duckitt family.

In all my years, I've only seen a cultivated Bartholina once. Its owner must have been a genius. I wouldn't be surprised if it was growing in a pot of Cape soil.

mrobert 04-09-2008 01:23 AM

I've heard stories of cut flowers, and plants I believe, from Duckitt being sold in Woolworth's department stores. If this is the same Woolworth's we have (had) here in the states...well that's mind-blowing.

orchidhunter 04-09-2008 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mrobert (Post 97114)
I've heard stories of cut flowers, and plants I believe, from Duckitt being sold in Woolworth's department stores. If this is the same Woolworth's we have (had) here in the states...well that's mind-blowing.

Yes, I do think some of the Cymbidium plants and stems sold in Woolworths in South Africa could be from them. And our Woolworths is affiliated with Marks & Spencer in the UK. Not the British Woolworths and definitely not the US Woolworth's. You'll understand why when you've been in one! ;)

mrobert 05-09-2008 06:44 PM

Orchidhunter- Any chance you'll be going back to the RSA any time soon?

Wilferd Duckitt 05-20-2008 11:12 AM

Hello from Duckitt Nurseries, Darling, South Africa
 
Dear Mateo and other Orchid Enthusiasts

Duckitt Nurseries produces Cymbidium cut-flowers for the Export Market, and also produces Cymbidium, Cattleya, Ansellia, Disa, Oncidumnia, Polystachya, Angraecum, Zygopetalum and several other types for the Local potplant market.
With regards to Bartholina, we did succesfully cultivate B. burmanniana and B. etheliae a few years ago.
They are however difficuly to propagate and especially tricky to deflask.
Since we are a Commercial Nursery, we concentrate on the varieties that "pay their bills"

Our nursery is open to the public every 1st Saturday of the months May-Nov from 09h00-12h00.
We also have our own annual Orchid show at Oudepost farm from 18-21 Sept 2008 from 09h00-17h00.

Happy Growing!
Wilferd Duckitt
pp Duckitt Nurseries (Pty) Ltd.

King_of_orchid_growing:) 05-20-2008 06:27 PM

Mr. Duckitt. How can someone from the United States purchase plants like Disa cooperi, Disa stairsii, Disa chrysostachya, Disa cornuta, Disa lugens, or Disa hians from you?

Wilferd Duckitt 05-21-2008 05:22 AM

Dear Sir
We grow only Disa uniflora and its hybrids. The Summer rainfall Disas are notoriously difficult to grow. I suggest you contact members of the northern provinces of South Africa. Contact details are on the SAOC website.
Best regards
Wilferd Duckitt

mrobert 05-21-2008 05:40 AM

Mr. Duckitt, Thank you so much for your reply. You've confirmed much of what I assumed, mainly that bartholinae are extremely hard to grow. If I am ever in RSA I will be sure to visit! Thank you-

mrobert 03-05-2009 02:45 PM

Bumping this because I STILL want a Bartholina!!!

disalover 03-04-2015 02:16 PM

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I finally found someone who grows these plants and could possibly sell them. but when I contacted the he said he only has 3 plants that he have been growing for over 30 years. I just hope he gets the time to multiply them some time and sell some to us who really want to grow this beauty. No seed also. He also successfully grows Disa lugens which I also hope he can sell some day.

below a photo his bartholina


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