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Fairorchids 01-07-2014 03:12 PM

'Teacup' Paphs
 
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A number of years ago I heard a lecture by Harold Koopowitz, proposing breeding for smaller Paphiopedilums. Considering that complex (Bulldog) hybrids easily can have a 24" leaf span, and kolopakingii goes 3'+, you can obviously fit a lot more 2" pots in the space of a couple of 6-8" pots.

Several years ago I picked up a couple of plants of(helenae x Pacific Shamrock), now named In-Charm Topaz. These bloom on 5" fans, but the flowers are still heavily influenced by the helenae parent.

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Over the past 6 months, I have acquired about 8 seedlings of (In-Charm Topaz x Sorcerer's Stone), as well as the reverse. Where SS is the pod parent, plants are compact, but fans are at least 10" across. Where I-CT is the pod parent, most are 6" or less. The smallest one bloomed with a 2.1/2" flower on a 3.1/2" fan.

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It was a little too small to breed with, but I intend to use it for the next generation when it grows up. In the meantime I have used pollen from these minis onto Paph Meditation (= Winston Churchill x charlesworthii), which is growing in a 3" pot.

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seaj 01-07-2014 04:45 PM

I would love it if miniature paphiopedilums were readily available. They might not be as impressive, but they are just as beautiful to me.

Fairorchids 01-07-2014 04:57 PM

Check Deerwood Orchids in MN. He specializes in smaller growing Paphs.

theroc1217 01-07-2014 05:04 PM

I'm right by there, I should check it out. I've found Paph micranthum and a few others at Orchids Limited in St. Paul MN. I've found some other miniature orchids from someone in China, looking to get some of them soon to give to Orchids Ltd to try and hybridize for me.

Vanda lover 01-07-2014 05:19 PM

These are gorgeous! I love the colours. the yellow one belongs in our yellow living room.

seaj 01-07-2014 05:46 PM

What is the leafspan of a "miniature" paph? Also, what species contribute to such a compact growth habit?

theroc1217 01-07-2014 06:11 PM

Micranthum and Helena I believe. I'm not sure about the others. Their leaf spans are all less than 8 inches, some as low as 5 or 6.

ron-in-norcal 01-07-2014 08:50 PM

Looks like some spectacular paphs will be available in a few years' time by the look of those.

The Orchid Boy 01-07-2014 11:41 PM

I've seen specimen micranthum with tons of growths but the leaf span on each growth was only 3 inches, with a huge flower on those tiny growths. It looked more out of proportion than most micranthums...

theroc1217 01-07-2014 11:44 PM

'Teacup' Paphs
 
Yeah, given enough light the leaves will not stretch as much. Oftentimes the flower is bigger than the growth. How do inter generic slipper hybrids to? Check out a search for "micranthum" on eBay to find seller "new-china2010". He has nice stuff, waiting for the weather to warm up to ship it over here.

WhiteRabbit 01-08-2014 05:47 PM

Awesome!

Fairorchids 01-09-2014 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by seaj (Post 645002)
What is the leafspan of a "miniature" paph? Also, what species contribute to such a compact growth habit?

In the Paphiopedilum section, helenae, henryanum, charlesworthii, spiceriaum & fairrieanum are all used. I have heard of barbigerum being used, and I am curious about coccinea, but I believe that it remains illegal in the US.

Occasionally you find a smaller growing plant in one of the other species (I have heard of a callosum with 3" fans).

You can also use the Brachypetalum section. Niveum concolor & bellatulum all have large flowers in relation to the fan size. Here I am looking to obtain thaianum, which is apparently legal now.

quiltergal 01-10-2014 12:10 PM

Tranliemianum is pretty small also. Leave span is just a bit bigger than helenae.

bballr4567 01-10-2014 02:54 PM

I got three of the mini paphs. Lost two and the other is finally doing ok. I wish I could grow them. :(


Yours look awesome.

SlipperGirl 01-10-2014 07:12 PM

Those are very cute :love:

Tabbyblack13 01-10-2014 08:19 PM

I need to get into the minis. I'm running out of room.

theroc1217 01-11-2014 01:35 AM

Yeah I pretty much only do Mimi's, got like 100 in my bedroom that take up hardly any room.

Daniel Herrera 01-17-2014 02:05 PM

I love miniature Paphs. My smallest paph species is a Paphiopedilum barbigerum var. aureum with leafspan of 4" and flower of 2.5" by 2.5". It is even smaller than my paph. helenae!

Vanda lover 01-17-2014 04:25 PM

It sounds adorable. What colour?

Daniel Herrera 01-18-2014 11:08 AM

Yellow/Green

Vanda lover 01-18-2014 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Herrera (Post 647997)
Yellow/Green

Must be pretty. I think I will get a mini someday. I have read that there are some paphs that can bloom a long time.
Mine is just an average one.

Daniel Herrera 01-18-2014 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanda lover (Post 648026)
Must be pretty. I think I will get a mini someday. I have read that there are some paphs that can bloom a long time.
Mine is just an average one.

Here are some recent photos. The pot is 2"
http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1390074925
http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1390074926
http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1390074919
http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1390074922

Vanda lover 01-18-2014 03:58 PM

It is adorable!

Tabbyblack13 01-18-2014 04:26 PM

Small plant Big flower.


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