Zygonisia Cynosure var blue water sailing
 

this has 9 blooms this year, on one stem. The colours are stunning and my cell phone camera doesn't really do them justice.

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Wow! That's gorgeous. :love:

Beautiful coloration!

Quite amazing!

Love this one:-)

Lovely! I have one of these and can't seem to strike the right balance with watering. What's working for you?

I thoroughly water weekly, its in a clear pot so I can ensure that the sphag is moist too. It has a lot of roots and they change colour to green with watering.
Mix is medium bark interspersed with long-strand sphagnum moss ( about 80/20 ).
I fertilise, weakly, at every watering and alternate fertilisers. I do this irrespective of the season.
Its in a south-facing window without protection, about 2 feet in, so it does gets a fair deal of sunlight.
It also reliably spikes with each new growth. This is the first time however with so many blooms. Usually gets 1-3 blooms per spike. I got this plant in January 2012 as a bigger seedling.

Gorgeous blooms and a great show with so many! Congratulations!

Fabulous! :wtg:

update - a new growth and a spike that's evident in the photo.
Also a photo showing 2 seedpods. They are relatively large when compared to the size of the mother plant. The last seedpod took 8.5 months to dehisce.
I don't know why more people don't grow this hybrid - its small, easy grower and 1 bulb = 1 spike. Fairly spectacular flowers....

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Zyginisia Cynosure ‘Blue Water Sailing’
Gorgeous flowers! It must be very fragrant in that area. The seed pods are large.

UhOH. I have a very similar one that's NoID. I posted about it recently, and received several good responses to my "not sure what the heck this is... but it sure is pretty."

Ummmm, I'm thinking I shouldn't have cut off the spike when it finished blooming. One gets seed pots on these?!? {{sigh}} so much to learn.

Bud - I haven't corrected the name because I realised that this specific hybrid has a patent pending. I wonder if this qualifies it for a var ? Unfortunately at the time the flowers were not that fragrant, but one man's fragrance is another man's no smell at all.
Waterw - I have seedpods because I manually pollinated the blooms. It is correct to cut the spike as these do not rebloom or grow another spike from an old stem, like some phals do.

just copy your tag exactly as it is.... you are not to blame , the seller should have the correct name on the tag when they sell it....

I did - the tag may be incorrect - unless the patent pending distinction qualifies this as a var. ( per Ray's explanations )

AhHa! And good. I knew it wouldn't re-bloom, but figured it was still an error. Thanks for the clarification, 'tis appreciated.

I watered today and noticed a potential 2nd spike - right next to the first one.
I LOVE this plant !!!:bowing

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for interest's sake this is a photo of the first seed pod that was flasked on 10 May 2013 and a couple of seeds germinated - the green in the flask....

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OK, now I have to have one!! Have wanted one for a couple years don't know why I don't have one yet. Yours is beautiful!...Jean

Make sure you get this var - I had an alba and it died despite exactly the same cultural conditions

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update - definitely 2 spikes, but only 8 buds between the two.
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one of my favourites because its a reliable and spectacular bloomer. Faint fragrance - but just at certain times.
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So gorgeous!!! I attempted on of these and failed miserably...it didn't come very healthy though so I may try again..Zygos and it's inter genetics are hard to find around here though.

This is so gorgeous!

THIRD spike !
 

I found another spike ! This is the 3rd spike from 1 bulb, and all 3 are on the same side. Has anyone else had this happen ? I was ecstatic to get 2....now 3 !
As an aside - I always read about how blooming and carrying seed pods drains the energy of a plant. This plant has 2 seedpods, 2 more developing and now a third spike. Either this genus is the exception to the rule, or under good cultural conditions, it can be done !

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Wow, it must be really happy!

This is impressive!!! So how often are you watering these days? And you say you alternate fertilizers with every watering, may I ask what fertilizer ratios your use and does this mean you're watering just once a week?

I don't have the same plant but I got my first Zygo about a month ago - Zygolum Rhein Moonlight - and another a couple days ago - Zygopetalum Adelaide Meadows 'Brabum' x Ptpm. Mathina 'Elizabeth'.

The first suffered some damage in transit but still gave me one bloom (bought in spike/bud). I have seen about 3 small new growths.

The second has 4 pbulbs and another growth that has not yet formed a bulb, which from my understanding means that it will still throw a spike (keeping my fingers crossed).

Just wondering how you're achieving such excellent results, maybe I can get on the right train with these guys. :-D

I can't count. I checked again and there are FOUR spikes on the one pseudobulb. Updated photo :

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I checked on your cross. Cultivation details are as follows - from the Baker's :
"(Propetalum Mathina x Zygoneria Adelaide Meadows) is composed of species of which 96% take cool temperatures and 96% take warm temperatures. Grow this hybrid in cool to warm conditions, or 58°F to 75°F at night. 40%-70% humidity. Water heavily during growth; Water just as medium starts to dry. Do not water during the winter if plant loses its leaves (deciduous). Commonly grown in pots. Fertilize heavily when actively growing. Common media: fine fir bark, ammended with perlite."

I fertilise weakly, weekly and I do water only 1x per week. I don't measure, but maybe a teaspoon per 2 gallons...
I have a couple of different zygos - I find the intergenerics more difficult to grow. As I said I had alba/white forms of this intergeneric and all died. Yet this one does so well ! I have a Zygo Kuitpo that is also extremely difficult. Good Luck with yours.

Wow, thank you for all that information! I can't believe yours has 4 spikes now, beyond impressive! My Zygolum has been in a south facing window that is becoming more shady although they do get some direct light. I try to keep it a bit away from the direct light. And like I said the other Zygopetalum I just got. I see you called it Zygoneria?? Are you talking about Baker's the seller btw?

Thanks!

the data is from OrchidWiz and they extract their data from the Bakers:

Orchid Culture -- Charles and Margaret Baker

Your mathina cross is not registered, but would go under the genus Alantuckerara if it was. The genus is named after R Tucker in New Zealand who registered about 75 zygo crosses in the 1990's.


My zygos all go outdoors next month, hanging in trees, under shrubs. They love it and generally I don't have to water ! I use dynamite extended fertiliser that I sprinkle on the top layer of bark.

Thank you for the culture info for your very happy orchid. Its so lovely, I had to pick one up too.

:verycool: OMG they're magnificent! My 2 new acquisitions are Agnx.Eva's Blue Amazon "Kalapana" in bloom but the one in question is Zns.Cynosure 'Alba' from Kalapana which finished bloom but a tall plant in a pot ~3". I assume now would be the time to repot or wait? What size would you go up to? Your info on OB is very much appreciated and send more pix!:bowing

Interesting for this to show up again... I am moving schtuff around, and found two more blooming "branches" on my NOID. It just keeps on keeping on.

Mine's in S/H, for a couple of years. Mostly benign neglect culture. Truly, 'tis a very easy one. ;)

oooh, the blue flowers and fragrant! That is something I would enjoy having. You said they are small. How small is small? I am out of space. :( I bought a Zglm. Luisendorf 'Rhein Clown' in bud. The flowers opened half way, dried and turned brown around the edges and stayed that way. I cut the spike off yesterday. Your blue flowers really do tempt me. Good growing!

Sorry I didn't reply to this way back when but how is your Zygonisia doing now? When you say they're hanging from trees exactly what do you mean? I've been trying to get a better grip on watering these hybrids more appropriately. My Alantuckerara as you referred to it above has a new growth forming a bulb now though it never flowered. Meanwhile there's a new growth coming off it. I'm keeping my fingers crossed it might yet spike but I think I've neglected watering and fertilizing after all the rain we had early on. My Zygolum on the other hand with 3 new growths seems the biggest stopped around 5", then the 2nd has grown fast to 3" and the littlest has grown much at all passed a quarter-half inch. Overall its roots look good I just wonder why the new growths are seemingly stunted.

Not to hijack the thread but very interested in your successes with your hybrid. The Zygolum likes bright light, well so it seems, maybe it's been too bright thus the stunting. The other does not like it so bright. So two very different plants...

But got a Zygonisia Cynosure 'Blue Birds' today!! It had ants in it!!! So I repotted it. Small plant, one genuine bulb and a small, couple inch new growth.

a couple of you asked questions, apologies for late reply
- these can take repotting at any time. I am going to have to repot cynosure in a month or 2 once I have harvested the remaining 2 pods
- I hang them under trees/shrubs using wire pot hangers. These are available from nurseries and are cheap. They are not protected from rain.
- my 2 zygos ( Alan Greatwood and Blue Blazes x Rhein Harlequin ) are currently in bud. These get early morning and late afternoon filtered sun. These are in a 12in pot placed under a tree.
- my Louisendorf was attacked by some sort of fungal infection and almost died. It has 5 new growths, but I hope it will make it...
- I have 2 flasks of my own cross that I have yet to deflask. The objective is to get more compact plants with a resistance to black spot - the black spot that attacks most zygos relentlessly. In fact I lost most of my other flasks of louisendorf cross to this black spot. The cross was a dud - and I believe this susceptibility is genetically enhanced...or potentially eliminated. Cynosure itself has quite a resistance, hence my use in a breeding programme.
- all outdoors plants get watered 1x per week ( if it doesn't rain ) and have a teaspoon of bloodmeal roughly every 2 months, together with dynagro extended release fertiliser granules.

meant to add that my cynosure seems to be in a dormant phase - no signs of new growth at all.

Thanks for the info. I've recently picked up some net baskets and am trying to decide who should be potted in them. I've got a bunch of mini Catts I'm going to put in most of them. I think I've been underwatering my Zygos so I don't know if these net pots would be good for my watering habits.

Sorry to hear about your cross and Louisendorf. Hope it makes it!

issue with net pots is that when you come to repot you end up destroying roots that have grown through the netting...

That does seem an obvious concern. I have a mini Catt I bought on Ebay "overgrown" as seller put it with roots all over the place through the net pot. Seems a really happy plant, bloomed the day after I got it and I pollinated successfully (only a couple weeks old now, but there's a pod forming). But without any daily misting - it's in all sphag - it's still doing well and has encouraged me to repot other minis I have into such a pot (hanging). And like I said before it makes me wonder about some of my other plants, but none of my Zygos need repotting since I already did this year. (Worried about repotting them in ceramic orchid pots...can't squish them out...)

Thanks for sharing. And my Zygo/Ptpm (don't have the hybrid name you told me before) just MIGHT be growing a spike...he he...

since my posting of 26 July, I have noticed 3 new growths ! And that is the really interesting part !
1 growth is where I would expect it - starting from the latest pbulb. The other 2 are from much older pbulbs. This is the only orchid that I know of that has spontaneously started new growths from older growths that haven't been disturbed/detached in any way.
This plant is native to the Amazon ( one parent ) and apparently at times is submerged completely by floodwaters. It grows on river banks and tree trunks that extend over the water. It must be "secure" in its growth spot - not likely to be washed away.
I am obviously speculating - but because the biggest new growth is over the pot and considering its natural habitat, the plant "smartly" knows that any further growth in that direction is "risky" ( no media ) and has therefore initiated other growths into available media. This seems a reasonable and logical explanation ! :lol:
I will post photos soon. This plant continues to amaze me. Its held lots of seed capsules, has had multiple bloom stems - 4 from one pbulb......and now this ! I am definitely going to self it the next bloom cycle and produce more of this hybrid. To me its really unique !

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flowers are 6cm x 7cm - roughly.....2.25in x 2.75in

Wow, that's pretty awesome. I would love to get my hands on one of these.