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Phragmipedium besseae leaves turns red
This is my first Phragmipedium and i don't really know if it's quite normal or if it's a disease.
Perhaps pictures can be more helpful http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/SAM_0494.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/SAM_0495.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/SAM_0497.jpg and a new growth with some brown areas http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/SAM_0496.jpg The medium is made with peat, perlite, bark, charcoal, expanded clay and lava rocks. Substrate always damp. |
I'm no expert, but that looks like a really bad case of nutrient deficiency. That could mean you're not feeding enough, or that you're not feeding the nutrients in proper proportions, or that the mix you're using doesn't support the plant's proper uptake of certain key nutrients.
If I had to take a guess, I'd say it's got a magnesium deficiency, but don't take that as being the case. Can you describe how often and at what rate you fertilize? What brand(s)? How long has it been since the plant was repotted? |
To me it looks very over-potted as well as whatever is going on with the reddish pigment.
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As fertilizer I use Scott's Peters 20-20-20 half rate (0,5 grams/liter) each 10-15 days. |
Definitely needs something in the way of nutrition and even for a Phrag that is overpotted.
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Ok first step is repotting. Now it's in a 18 cm plastic post, I will repot it in a 12 cm pot.
Any suggestion about the kind of nutrition deficiency? |
I would just give it a balanced fertiliser each time you water at the recommended dose for orchids. These should grow fairly quickly and like moisture so it should recover. I haven't seen a deficiency quite like this so I am not sure what else I can recommend. However a fertiliser that 'has the lot' should help. It will also be good to see how well the roots are developing which might give an indicator.
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I'm not so good with phrags but how is the hardness of your water? Are you using rain water or something with low TDS? It looks like general stress response.
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Phrag Besseae is one of the more sensitive phrags to water quality, and most of them are more sensitive than other orchids.
They can also get brown tips from over fertilisation, through I've seen them go more brown and die back, than red, when that's been the cause. If I give my hybrid of Besseae the same strength fertiliser as I give my phals it will start browning on the tips of the leaves. I give it about half the strength I give others, and always use rain water. |
Thanks to all for the suggestions
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If I remember correctly, Peter's doesn't contain Ca and Mg since it is formulated for tap water (not RO or rain water). But it's not the symptom of immobile elements like Ca (because the older leaves are affected). I think you are giving about 100ppm N every 2 weeks, which seems to be ok for most orchids. But you might want to consider reducing it.
Since I killed P. besseae with a similar symptom (long time ago), I'm not probably the one who should be saying anything in this thread. But I think the problem of mine was that the temp was too high. I was in warm North Carolina, and it grew ok in the winter, but get stressed in the summer (like yours), and it died. |
Interesting that heat causes that, I haven't had that happen to anything I have before but will be mindful of that in future with out summers.
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About fertilizing, I normally use 2 teaspoon per 5 liters, I have no exactly idea the quantity in ppm. |
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As an example, for 100ppm of N (I'm not sure what number you want for this orchid, I'll let the experts cover that!) you would want to use 0.38 tsp per US gallon; or 0.49 ml per liter. |
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Maybe is over potted, but I don’t like peat moss, is very acid (3.5 to 4.6) pH and I think is micronutrient intoxication.
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Massimo, if your concentration is not a typo, I agree with others (Mary Lynn said 600ppm N, but isn't it about 400ppm N?). It could have caused root rot (too much salt in the media causes dehydration of root, and kill the root, which leads to "root rot"). So it might be a good idea to repot it (or soak it in the water for a long time to get rid of accumulated salt), then use much more dilute fertilizer. Lots of people are going with around 30-50ppm N (or even lower) for every watering. Also you should check if Ca and Mg are in the fertilizer since you are using rain water. If not, you might want to sprinkle granular (not the powder kind, which will be washed out easily) Dolomite Lime. I use about a pinch (1/8tsp or less) per a small pot.
Bolero, I'm not completely sure about the heat issue, but I think they do "prefer" cooler temp (than other Phrag). I hope other real Phrag expert will chime in. They can "tolerate" quite a bit, and people in warm climate seem to be successful. I'm guessing that modern P. besseae is less picky due to artificial selection for a while. I'm in a cooler climate now, so I decided to try Phrag. d'allesandroi (closely related to P. besseae) this year. |
My immediate first idea is too high temperature (also eventually caused by solar irradiation) as this is what I know from my phrags. So I cling to Naomi and Bolero.
Autumn and winter are a cure by nature. |
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