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Help... Really bad root rot!!
Hello. I had recently posted a question about my Phal, whether it was growing a new root or spike. It turned out to be a root growing upwards and in one of the replies, somebody made a comment that maybe the root was trying to get out of the very wet medium. So I repotted, and they turned out to be right! There was a LOT of damage and root rot :_( one of the leaves even stated yellowing! I trimmed away all the damage I could and my poor Phal was left with 2 good roots. There is a tiny new leaf growing too, does that mean there's hope? I am afraid that the rot might have got to the stem of the orchid.
The clear plastic pot i used has an inner net core that promotes air drying and photosynthesis. I packed the medium very lightly and added some packing penuts that I had ordered from rePotme.com after reading some of their orchid care pointers. Basically, I'm just waiting to see what happens next. Is there anything else I can do for my plant? Please help, I don't want to lose my beautiful Phallie. |
You have done the same as I do. The one thing you need to do now is to keep the plant in a humid environment to minimize dehydration while the plant grows new roots. I have rescued store bought phals that had essentially no roots but I have a grow room that I keep at 60%-80% humidity with constant air circulation.
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It will survive! give some TLC and consider some seaweed extract or SuperThrive to promote root growth. It may take a while, but orchids want to survive. So patience is now key.
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Thank you so much for your help!
where can i get seaweed extract or SuperThrive? And how often do i apply? |
After trimming back all the rot, I've used cinamon as a fungicide. I almost completely killed one after overwatering (one of my first orchids), trimmed it back, used cinamon, let it dry out, then after a while a keiki emerged. It's grown enough roots on it's own I separated it from the old dried up part and threw the old "stump" out.
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I had some similar trouble with my two Phals. I'm just watching them more carefully and watering when the few roots that are left turn white. I have mine up on humidity trays (some clear plastic trays I got at a garden supply store with some stones and water) and so far so good. Good luck to you :)
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Thank you for your support. :) I also used ground cinnamon and applied wherever I trimmed. I guess all I have left to do is wait.
Do you think a swamp cooler would be a good idea to keep a good air circulation whilst providing a humid environment for my Phal? It's pretty warm here anyway... So there definitely is hope. I'm glad. Thank you so much everybody for your comments :D |
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I bought my Superthrive from Walmart of all places. It was in the gardening supplies section. If you do purchase this product be sure to refrigerate it after opening so that the contents do not break down as quickly.
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Thank you so much. I'll do that and keep my fingers crossed. :)
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I have found promoting humidity and providing warmth to the roots really helps out. I've had my fair share of battles with root rot.
I'm currently fighting to keep my leopard prince alive that's developed a case of it. I've repotted it out of season but it'll die if I do nothing. Like Marisol, I also use ground cinnamon whenever I trim any roots and it seems to help out. I like using natural stuff and I'm not a big fan of chemical pesticides. Oh and air circulation and providing air to the roots is also really good when coupled with humidity. Gotta love those "oxygen core" pots from repotme.com |
Root & Crown Rot in Phals
If the cinnamon is not stopping the rot, you may want to try soaking the phal in hydrogen peroxide. Make sure the peroxide gets into the crown as well. I let mine soak for several minutes and then I let the phal dry overnight on its side before repotting. If the rot is very bad, you may have to use the hydrogen peroxide for several days in a row.
To prevent the rot from returning, you need to make sure your potting media is drying quickly enough. I do not water my phals until the potting media is almost dry. Since phals are predisposed to crown rot, I still leave wooden skewers in the pot which I press to my cheek to see how wet the media is before I water. It always surprises me how some phals remain wetter than others even though they are grown in the same size pot and same media. That's why I always check first. Also, if I suspect I've allowed water to get into the crown, I place the phal on it's side until the next day so I'm sure the water was able to drain out. Many people grow their phals on their sides to prevent crown rot and I've found this helpful as well. If you continue to have problems with rot, you can try watering less often, growing on their sides, adding an additional fan and/or using a different type of potting material. I had many phals die from rot when I first started growing them. What I found worked best for my conditions was to pot the phals in a mixture of New Zealand sphag and bark. You need to figure out what works best for the conditions you are growing in. I believe that's where the ability to successfully grow orchids resides. Good luck! |
You do know you replied to a 2012 thread, right?
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Oooops
Half asleep when I wrote response. Probably a few more out there. Sorry.
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Done so myself...
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If cinnamon is being applied to roots, "root rot" isn't going to kill the roots, desiccation will. Yeah. I'm almost in 2019, at 6 am, replying to a 2012 post. I need a life. Oh, I got my fertilizers, thank you Ray!!
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Cinnamon is fine to use on cut leaves, but NEVER on roots. It may kill roots.
Oh wait. Nevermind, I too just realized how old this thread is. Coffee has not kicked in yet. |
Format C:\ /L >> nul
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I get the part about no coffee yet, though! :)
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Open a DOS command line.
Format C:\ /L is the command to erase and reset (Format) everything on your main hard drive and overwrite it (/L(ong)] with digital zeros so it's completely gone. If you do this, undelete programs won't be able to recover the data. Most of the time you would never, never, never want to do this. When you try to format a disk the operating system prints out a message asking whether you really want to do this, and reminding you everything on the disk will be wiped. The command >> nul can be placed after any other command that normally generates a text response from the computer. It tells the operating system to send its normal warning message to the nul location, which means not to print it and to discard it, so the operator won't see it. | Y pipes (sends) the answer Y(es) to the question the operating system always asks when you issue the format command - are you sure you want to destroy everything on your main drive? So Format C:\ /L >> nul | Y tells the operating system to erase irrevocably everything on the main hard disk, don't bother me with warning messages, and do it even if I haven't looked at the warning message. This has been known to happen when people haven't had their morning coffee. Enough hooky. Back to bringing in plants. Frost is possible tonight. I've noticed I move much faster with brandy in my coffee, but I also get distracted by Orchid Board. |
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