Help with Apple Blossom "Woodland"
 

Hello everyone...again

Yes I think I have another problem. When I bought the new Oncidium, the leaves were a dark green. I put it on my porch... (have had it for about 2 weeks) where it gets abut one or two hours of sun through a screen...but there is a noticeable difference now in the color of the leaves...they have turned much lighter green..

is this bad?

Should I move it to get less sun?

Thanks for the help in advance!

J

Lighter green is generally a good sign, as the lighter the green tone, the better the light absorbtion. However, sometimes too light green/ nearing yellow can be a bad (ie too much light). I would say it's fine, but it you did the higher light too quickly they could burn. I'd keep a close eye on it, and maybe post a pic. But from your comments, I would say it's probably ok. Let us know!

I have to agree, lighter is usually better. However, I'm pretty sure your plant is from the Cattleya alliance (not an Oncidium). you may want to head over to the Cattleya forum, and see if you can find information there.

Iwanagara Apple Blossom 'Woodland'

Light: Medium to High
Temperature: Intermediate to warm
its not an oncidium...Kip is right

I'm so confused!
 

I thought if the orchid had large bulbs at the base it was an oncidium?

Here's a pic

this on too?
 

Thought this one was an oncidium too...

Nanook, you're right about the 2nd one, from what I can tell, but the first one is definitely in the Catt alliance. Tough really to explain, but larger broad oval/round pseudoblub with a single or sometimes 2 leaves is normally a Catt. Also Catt leaves generally arise from above the PB. It's one of those things you just have to see a lot of. Oncs tend to have multiple leaves coming from the base of the PB, as well as 2 leaves or so from the top of the PB (as you see in pic 2). Hope that helps

Nanook, I was confused by this at first, however many in the Cattleya Alliance also can look like this.

One difference (as I understand it) is that Cattleya Alliance bloom out of the top of the p-bulb and Oncidium Alliance bloom out of the base of the p-bulb. I'm sure there are other differences as well, but I don't know them all.

Your second one does look more Oncidum like than the first however I can't be sure unless you have a name for it. I can't really describe either what about the first looks more Cattleya like, or what in the second looks more Oncidium like. It's something n the shapes of the bulbs and leaves that I've picked up from looking at so many pictures. However I'm no where near being an expert and can't be certain if I'm right.

There are other types of orchids with p-bulbs like this as well. Bulbophylum springs to mind but there could be others as well.

Assuming it is Iwanagara Apple Blossom as though (and it seems the most likely) then it is Dialaelia Snowflake x Blc.Orange Nugget and these are both in the Cattleya Alliance.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who was stumped in trying to explain why it looks like a Catt...

On the second photo...... my mother ( it was a gift from her) says that the flowers look like little yellow butterflies with long spikes

You said: your plant is Apple Blossom 'Woodland'

the only plant listed in that name is an: Iwanagaara Appleblossom 'Woodland'

you have to be complete and precise on the tag of your plant, if the plant doesnt come with a tag then its a NOID(no identity) and you cant assume or presume to name it because it looks like the bulbs of other orchids...
your second picture can be also be a Miltonia, but if your mother says it has yellow wide lipped flowers then its an oncidium alright...
you cant base the type of orchid by the way you look at them that is assuming...to be sure: get the tag and abide by it...because chances are they are the correct name of the plant.

The tag on the first plant says "Iwan apple blossom woodland HCC/AOS

The second ....we'll just have to call that baby a NOID until it flowers!!! My mom has no idea if she ever had a tag for it!

Thanks for the help members!

actually your plant is Jackfowlieara Appleblossom 'Woodland'
If you're going by the old name, "Iwanagaara" should have 2 "a"s after the g, and Appleblossom is one word.

Ok...was just going by what the tag said.....thanks for the info but to be honest I was really only looking for what type it was Oncidium or Cat...etc

Think I know now and will water and expose to the correct amount of light .....hopefully

Thanks

J

The leaf color should be kind of a lime green if it is lighter (more yellow) it is getting too much sun. I put mine outside on the South side of my covered porch in May and bring it inside around the end of Sept. I get blooms like clockwork in late Feb to early March. This is a pretty easy care catt, enjoy!
Joann

I guess you should update the name of the plant to its modern name as Kip said...YEEEEY now that we know the name of your plant: then you can search its culture.
Too bad the other plant is a noid...but it is a happy healthy plant...good growing!

Bud...

You're right ....I caught the fever from mom...she must have 35 orchids that grow like mad, but if you asked her what any of the names were she would look at you and say, " I don't know but it sure has pretty flowers!"

Thanks for the help

J

Dont be sad...when I first started with my first two phals...they were noids I picked up on the trash...the first years I collected orchids; I threw away the tags because they were plastic and ugly...LOL It was when one friend asked me the name of a blooming phal and I didnt know...she looked it up for me and gave me a tag to write it on...thats when I learned the importance of the plant's name preserved in a tag...

Ah, that's why I couldn't find it on the RHS register.

Unfortunately they keep renaming these things, so the old name Iwanagaara has been changed to Jackfowlieara, probably because genetic studies have moved one of it's parents to a different genus and that has a ripple down affect to all the hybrids.

Lots of places selling it incorrectly have Appleblossom as two words, but the RHS official register does indeed have it listed as Jackfowlieara Appleblossom.

actually, 4 species in the background of this cross have been moved:
Diacrium bicornutum => Caularthron bicornatum
Brassavola glauca => Rhyncholaelia glauca
Brassavola digbyana => Rhyncholaelia digbyana
Cattleya aurantiaca => Guarianthe aurantiaca

Since all Diacrium species have been moved to Caularthron or Prosthechea, it is no longer possible to register a plant as Iwanagaara.