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kmigs26 09-18-2010 10:37 AM

MY ROOTS ARE ALL DEAD!!!!!!!!
 
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what do i do now?

rogerman 09-18-2010 11:21 AM

Is this some sort of vandacious plant?....If it is, they don't like being potted and have been too wet for too long....i'd let them dry out a bit, fertilise and water lightly daily WITHOUT BEING IN A POT.....There are still a coupe living roots there i see

kmigs26 09-18-2010 11:44 AM

its a Phalaenopsis

Tim 09-18-2010 11:56 AM

Yeah I agree there are definitely some live roots in there. I'd listen to Peter and then cut out all of the squishy/empty roots, and pot it up in a airy mix like a course bark. Was it in a sphagnum mix?

kmigs26 09-18-2010 12:01 PM

yup, it was in moss...which apparently is bad...there is one or two roots that are still alive...but they are showing signs of browning also. I replanted in a bark and charcoal mix...one specifically for this type of orchid. I also made sort of a contraption which I hope will help. I placed a few medal rods underneath the pot on a bowl and set the pot on the rods. I am hoping that this will increase air circulation underneath the pot to prevent rotting. I also put a bowl of rocks and water underneath my contraption for humidity and i have a light fan blowing in the room for the plant. I placed the plant in a north facing room and lowered the shades so it isn't getting too much light while it is trying to recover. I also watered it with a bit of orchid fertilizer. hopefully it will recover!!!

Ben Belton 09-19-2010 02:43 AM

I grow in mostly sphagnum. Its not bad, but its not for everyone.

If your plant has been growing in moss, the roots will be acclimated to an environment of greater moisture and not be as easily able to conserve water. A coarse mix and a fan will dry them to a crisp and kill the plant even faster if you let them stay dry too long.

Good luck. I've saved plenty of Phals from further gone. You'll be fine.

RJSquirrel 09-19-2010 04:05 AM

what kind of dressing would you like on the phal salad? :)

Swamper 09-19-2010 08:14 AM

I've never re potted one in this condition to save it always mounted or just hung it out. Now I have to water it every day but they sure are happy.

rogerman 09-19-2010 09:25 AM

All my Phals ae mounted on wood.....I NEVER have root rot or troubles like that

kmigs26 09-19-2010 10:09 AM

do my root look as if they rotted from too much water or they dried out from not enough? I would like to know how to proceed in the future with it. I am absolutely paranoid that the bark is either too dry or too wet. How do I tell!?!?

Ben Belton 09-19-2010 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by rogerman (Post 346302)
All my Phals ae mounted on wood.....I NEVER have root rot or troubles like that

Its not practical for those of us who grow inside in our houses to grow mounted.

Ben Belton 09-19-2010 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kmigs26 (Post 346307)
do my root look as if they rotted from too much water or they dried out from not enough? I would like to know how to proceed in the future with it. I am absolutely paranoid that the bark is either too dry or too wet. How do I tell!?!?

Yes, it looks like it stayed too wet. To tell if it needs to be watered, just pick it up. You can tell by the weight if the media has dried out.

Tell your boyfriend next time he wants to buy you an expensive flower that you don't have experience growing, to forget it. :)

Looks like you are getting plenty of good advice in another thread. I'll stop here.

dounoharm 09-19-2010 02:59 PM

leave it alone for a few days....sounds like you did good potting it in bark and charcoal....just leave it be and let time heal it....it will throw out new roots shortly....gl

RosieC 09-20-2010 07:44 AM

I agree with what you've been told above.

Looks like it's rotted from too much water. If roots are firm then leave them, any roots which are soft/hollow remove them.

Let it dry for a couple of days, I would leave it out the pot during that time. If you need to leave it longer (while you buy new mix) then you can wet the remaining roots whenever the green fades (they usually go silvery). If it's not potted then once it's had a few days to dry out you may want to do this every day.

Once you have new medium pot it in the smallest pot you can fit the roots into. I have found that recovering Phals really apreciate that. If you can't find a small enough pot then look for suitable old food containers and make lots of holes in them to make sure the roots can breath.

Potting in a small pot does mean watering more often, but provided it is fully drying between waterings that is actually better for the plant. Some I had recovering were being watered every 3 days in 2" pots, but they just loved it and I really really need to repot again into a bigger pot because they have grown so many roots.

Another note on small pots is that with big leaves they fall over. You want the pot to fit the roots not the leaf size, so I rest the small pot inside a bigger empty one to keep it stable.

Good Luck. It does look like it has some roots that should keep it going while it recovers.

kmigs26 09-30-2010 03:29 PM

thanks for the advice! okay so...it is repotted in the same pot...maybe that wasn't a good idea. I think i will go buy a smaller one today. My new problem are:

1. the remaining alive roots seemed to have dried out
2. the bottom of the plant seems to be rotting

the leaves look pretty good. they are a nice color green. i watered once since i replanted it, a few days ago...it has one little root growing still. it looks healthy and silver. i have been misting the new root daily...which i think might have caused the rot. how do i repair the problem? thanks so much!!!

kmigs26 09-30-2010 03:31 PM

Tell your boyfriend next time he wants to buy you an expensive flower that you don't have experience growing, to forget it. :)

i kind of MADE him buy it for me! oops?

kmigs26 09-30-2010 03:35 PM

actually...what about a glass jar? can i replant in a glass jar?

Zoi2 09-30-2010 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kmigs26 (Post 348847)
actually...what about a glass jar? can i replant in a glass jar?

Not without drainage holes. Phal roots can not stay wet.
Joann

Call_Me_Bob 09-30-2010 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kmigs26 (Post 348846)
Tell your boyfriend next time he wants to buy you an expensive flower that you don't have experience growing, to forget it. :)

i kind of MADE him buy it for me! oops?

now that you know basically how to care for them, go ahead and make him buy you all the phals you want! taking chances is a good thing ;)

kmigs26 10-01-2010 12:06 PM

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Monique.rbld 10-01-2010 12:37 PM

When you plant an orchid with moss you have to water a lot less frequent otherwise the roots will Roth you have to wait until the moss dries out to water again


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