Dendrobiums and is it a Bulbo? BBG. love them!
 

love this pink/fuchsia pendant Dendrobium but what is it? saw at show in Jersey mislabeled as D. macrophyllum and unlabeled at BBG.

In the same enclosure there is also this other plant that I wonder if it is a Bulbophyllum. Any ideas?
there was no tag that I could see.

Actually I am really annoyed that the Brooklyn Botanic Garden has so many plants that are unlabeled or labeled in inaccessible places [ and i have 15/20 20/20 vision!] and sometimes mislabeled.

Anyway love this that was enclosed behind glass windows [temp was 30 C]

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love this pink/fuchsia pendant Dendrobium but what is it? saw at show in Jersey mislabeled as D. macrophyllum and unlabeled at BBG.

In the same enclosure there is also this other plant that I wonder if it is a Bulbophyllum. Any ideas?
there was no tag that I could see.

Actually I am really annoyed that the Brooklyn Botanic Garden has so many plants that are unlabeled or labeled in inaccessible places [ and i have 15/20 20/20 vision!] and sometimes mislabeled.

Anyway love this that was enclosed behind glass windows [temp was 30 C]

Very nice. Number 4 looks like a Masdevalia.

N 4 is same as N 5. leaves are large fora Masdevallia as far as I know. reminds me more of a Bulbophyllum but without PB

Agreed re: BBG...I went to see their orchid collection today and couldn't see most of the i.d. tags. I actually just came to this forum to post some of my photos and get help i.d.'ing them!

I got reprimanded by a guard because i was reaching to look at a tag that was turned the wrong way.
I told that the tags are positioned in a way that can't be read.

A Botanic Garden is a scientific/educational institution not a flower / bouquet shop. probably would be good to let them know.
anyway does anyone know what are these?
Sheiman, can you post your images here?

That's so odd that they wouldn't want visitors to be able to read tags.

I just posted a few of my pics in this thread: http://www.orchidboard.com/community...tml#post290519

The pink Dendrobium looks like D. sulawesiense (syn. glomeratum). I don't think the other NOID has the right kind of lip to be a Masdevallia. The petals would also be much reduced in size (with larger, fused sepals) if it were a Masdie. But it can't be a Bulbo if it doesn't have pseudobulbs, either. I feel like I've seen it before, though.

Thanks,
i never seen a Masdevallia with such large leaves, maybe 8" long. also in that section the temp was around 90 F. are there Masdevallias that grow in those conditions?

Stefano, 6 and 7 look like Den. nobile. Nice pictures!

That's irritating about the poor labeling, I feel like identifying plants helps people engage with them on more levels than when they're just displayed for aesthetic effect. And after all isn't a city botanical garden about helping people develop relationships with plants? Maybe you should write them a letter. I hope to go to BBG next time we visit my brother-in-law in Queens, maybe I'll pester them about it, too. :biggrin:

--Nat

not a den nobile I think. looked like long / skinnier pendulous canes. well at the BBG they have a nice display and free access everywhere in the winter season and on tuesdays and sat mornings.
and regular admission is 8$.

The NYBG is always 20 $ to access to the conservatory.

The BBG has a nice natural display not too manicured. I think the majority of people do not care about tags / names - see more people more into drawing plants on their sketchbooks.

I also wish they had more botanical species than man made hybrds

I think that you meant a Maxillaria. In fact on the first set of pictures the last 2 are Maxillarias. I can't tell you which species but definetely Maxillarias.

Are there Maxillarias that don't have pseudobulbs?

It looks like a nobile to me. Mine has long, skinny, pendulous canes as well. If they are grown mounted or in hanging baskets the canes will hang down (to clarify, I'm talking about pics 6 and 7 in the first post, not the second one).

I am really wondering the one on the table with the large leaves is. I do not think is a Masdevallia. the leaves are quite large.

#'s 4, 5, 6 on your second posting appears to be a Maxillaria like Roly0217 had said.

One characteristic of certain Bulbophyllums are hinged lips that have the ability to bob at the slightest touch.

If the lip is fixed, it's most likely a Maxillaria.

It's not a Masdevallia. I'm 100% sure of it.

It just looks like one.

The pseudobulbs are there, the picture is shot an an angle where they're hard to see.

Maybe Stefano can take another photo of the plant from an angle that can show the pseudobulbs clearly.

If it has pseudobulbs, then I would agree it's a Maxillaria.

I am not sure it had pseudobulbs. the leaves were 6/7 inches long. it was behind a glass I could not get too close. was in the hot / humid tropical section

Sometimes the pseudobulbs on certain orchids may not be very pronounced.

This plant also at one point in time suffered from dehydration. Note the buckled leaf on one of the growths.

It also suffers from malnutrition. The discoloration on the leaves is a telltale sign.

I do see a pseudobulb on one of the growths.

I agree about the annoyance at BBG of not always being able to read the tags/not having tags, etc. However, I've met the orchid curator there when I took a class there last year and the main reason for the mislabels/no tags and lots of hybrids is because the vast majority of their plants were donated from private collections and so have/don't have whatever tags they showed up with.

I see that the tags are there - just many are hidden or washed out.
If the plants come from collections it seems unlikely that came without a tag

My point is coming from a private collection, there is no guarantee that they are labeled properly or came with tags and if they are hybrids, with no tag they can't be identified. Not everyone is careful with such things. But yes, a lot of the tags there are quite difficult to see as well. I suspect that for most people visiting, the names on the tags wouldn't mean much and so it isn't a priority at the moment. The curator also mentioned that they had received another private collection of cool growing montane species and are going to be re-doing the entire exhibit at some point aimed at those, so perhaps they will update tags at that point as well.

In the plants behind the window there is a tag in the pot but it is impossible to read. They could just use an inkjet printer and some sturdy paper and make a quick tag to put in front of the pot.

anyway I think the one I like a lot might be maxillaria longissima

Maxillaria longissima - Ecuagenera

it's a maxillaria

-Cj

#4 is a maxillaria

here are some other photos i shot a few days ago. I checked - some tags are behind the pot and some pots behind a glass. so the name is there but you cant read.

Also I would beware at buying orchids at the store. when they just receive them they look great but what sits on a shelf gets over watered , tossed over and tags get lost. 25 $ is too much maybe unless they are fresh...

anyway love that the BBG is free in the winter and on tuesdays and sat mornings. And i like that in teh wet house plants look like a slice of nature rather than just a bunch of blooms in cheesy pots like at some shows.

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my lens kept getting fogged due to the humidity/heat compared to the outdoor temps

I know that Den species...I'll look it up when I get home tonite.

It looks like it but I'm not so sure. The glomeratum blooms on short stems. These seem to be really long.

But maybe they are on steroids...:rofl:

I'm still looking through my books. I love the detective work...it's so much fun. :evil: