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calvin_orchidL 06-15-2009 10:46 PM

Cymbidium goeringii
 
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lambelkip 06-15-2009 11:01 PM

Very beautiful, what's the secret to getting them to bloom? Mine just sit there and put out new growths :yawn: but at least I got varieties with interesting leaves.

RosieC 06-16-2009 07:06 AM

Really pretty :cheer:

Psyched 06-16-2009 08:26 AM

Beautiful cymbs. Just wondering, what is the primary difference between this one and cymb ensifolium?

calvin_orchidL 06-16-2009 01:17 PM

So apparently someone tells me this is probably ensifolium instead of goeringii...which I also believe now because I've never seen a goeringii like this. Any ideas?

Lambelkip - I think a winter cooling is the trick, although I'm sure good light is important! Mine gets dappled morning sunlight, and a bit more sunlight during the winter

orchids3 06-16-2009 02:23 PM

Hi.
Very Nice. It gets my vote for goeringii or goeringii hybrid. Ensifolium has a lot more flowers per spike.
Dont see much of this in Florida so would also be interested in what others have to say.

lambelkip 06-16-2009 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by calvin_orchidL (Post 232369)
Lambelkip - I think a winter cooling is the trick, although I'm sure good light is important! Mine gets dappled morning sunlight, and a bit more sunlight during the winter

thanks, I'll try leaving it out with my neos this winter

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Originally Posted by calvin_orchidL (Post 232369)
So apparently someone tells me this is probably ensifolium instead of goeringii...which I also believe now because I've never seen a goeringii like this. Any ideas?

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Originally Posted by orchids3 (Post 232379)
Hi.
Very Nice. It gets my vote for goeringii or goeringii hybrid. Ensifolium has a lot more flowers per spike.
Dont see much of this in Florida so would also be interested in what others have to say.

I'd have to guess hybrid. goeringii usually doesn't have that many flowers.

orchids3 06-16-2009 09:36 PM

Actually - if you look at Orchid Wiz - there are goeringii that have that many flowers. Recomend a website by a Cym Species expert Cymbidium Species - Stephen Early and Cymbidium Species - Stephen Early

lambelkip 06-16-2009 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by orchids3 (Post 232501)
Actually - if you look at Orchid Wiz - there are goeringii that have that many flowers. Recomend a website by a Cym Species expert Cymbidium Species - Stephen Early and Cymbidium Species - Stephen Early

I don't have Orchid Wiz. I'm aware that some goeringii have that many flowers, but it's very unusual. The plant also appears to be very large for goeringii, although it's hard to tell for sure from the picture

calvin_orchidL 06-17-2009 08:39 AM

Well who knows if 3 flowers is because of background or bad culture :) :D

I do have to mention that the photo below is much darker than the flowers in real life, which are more of a pale cream-green. Also, the plant is smaller than my ensifolium, (but this may be because it is young?). Total height of the spike is around 9 inches

Is there an official way to distinguish between these two species? The tag says goeringii and I bought it off the sales table, but the tag is from Oakhill...wondering where along the way the mix-up could have happened.

smweaver 06-17-2009 10:23 AM

Calvin, those are beautiful blooms. And they do look like ensifolium to me. Although I'm not an expert, the flowers look like the ones on my ensifolium. Is this the first time that it's bloomed for you, or does it bloom at other times of the year? The reason I ask is because my ensifolium blooms dependably every year in the August - September period. And the small number of flowers isn't a sign of bad culture either. My ensifolium usually is rather stingy with its flower production. But the flowers that it does produce are incredibly fragrant. Congratulations on your blooms.

Steve

dr_dmd 06-20-2009 02:37 PM

Well, all the goeringii I have seen bear one flower per spike, and the spike are not as tall as yours - the flowers are carried low. The best book on Cymbidiums, in my humble opinion, is Du Puy and Cribb's book, The Genus Cymbidium, a bit pricey but VERY good. You can purchase it at Santa Barbara Orchid Estates. Check their website = Santa Barbara Orchid Estate Home Page , and click on "book" on the sidebar menu. Happy growing all!

calvin_orchidL 06-20-2009 10:30 PM

The only possible goeringii I think it could be is var. longibracteatum but that's a stretch. Ah well! This is the second blooming...if I recall correctly, the first time it bloomed was in september though, so I'm not sure what's going on. My other ensifolium isn't really doing much so it's curious what's going on.

dgenovese1 06-20-2009 11:38 PM

Calvin,
Whatever it is...I'm not much of a cymbidium grower, except a couple of warm tolerant ones...it is absolutely beautiful! And your photography is stunning!

While I definitely understand the importance of proper identification, I think you've done a great job growing and blooming this beauty, whatever it turns out to be. :Tup:


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