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Cowboys East 04-26-2009 10:55 PM

What is this material and where can I find it?
 
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Hey All,
This may fall under the "dumb question" category, but does anyone know what this black netting material is and where I can find it? Thanks any for any help.
Neil

Lorraine 04-26-2009 10:59 PM

No idea but someone here probably does. Wow! You could have a whole wall full of chids growing their little roots off :rofl:

SP2340 04-26-2009 11:57 PM

lol, new wallpaper!

Turtle 04-26-2009 11:57 PM

It almost looks like plastic poultry fence, but not quite? I don't think Lowes or Home Depot keep it in stock, but you can buy online. Tenax makes some.

Home depot does carry a similar utility fencing; only the pattern is square like temporary construction fecing instead of the usual hex shape.

natasha 04-27-2009 12:54 AM

i have thing like that at my home, but with square holes. i use it to screen of the window in my cats room. its like a plastic coated chicken wire - thus rust proof

p/s : i throw away a tree fern slab when i un-mount a chid. i dunno that is a tree fern slab - shame on me!

cb977 04-27-2009 07:54 AM

Look for gutter guards at HD or Lowe's ;)

I have a number of plants with this being used as the support. Very easy to use too...staple one side on the back of the mount, place your plant and pull the guard around the front so that it can wrap around the back and staple it there too...done! :clap:

Cowboys East 04-27-2009 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cb977 (Post 218170)
Look for gutter guards at HD or Lowe's ;)

I have a number of plants with this being used as the support. Very easy to use too...staple one side on the back of the mount, place your plant and pull the guard around the front so that it can wrap around the back and staple it there too...done! :clap:


Thanks Sue,
Lowes carries the vinyl gutter guard by Amerimax. After looking at the picture of it on the Lowes website, I think we have a winner. Picking some up today.
Neil

cb977 04-27-2009 10:06 AM

:Tup:

Turtle 04-27-2009 02:38 PM

OOH! I was sooo close!

jkofferdahl 04-27-2009 05:22 PM

You can also use what is called "hardware cloth," which is a metal mesh. It looks very similar to the gutter guard you are using, and might be less expensive.

Cowboys East 04-27-2009 09:18 PM

Hey All,
Went to Lowes today and the vinyl gutter guard they have is a little to thin to mount orchids. It would work well if doubled up, but I wish I could find the stuff from the picture. I have sent out a few emails to overseas vendors (where I see this material used often), but nobody feels like sharing. I think it is still some type of gutter guard, just need to find one that is a little more heavy duty. Let me know if anyone finds such.
Thanks for the input,
Neil

Gin 04-28-2009 10:04 AM

It looks a little like bird netting that is put over fruit trees but that would be to thin too .. they use something like that when building pole barns to keep rodents out it is put around the foundation base .. Gin

Becca 04-28-2009 10:16 AM

Neil, my hubby thought it looks like something that is used for rabbit hutches or a poultry fence only that stuff isn't usually rubber coated. Maybe looking at a farm supply store might help?

Gin 04-28-2009 04:33 PM

Becca's husband might be on to something they do use coated wire for the floors in Rabbit cages to prevent sore hocks on them ..

Cowboys East 04-28-2009 05:48 PM

Hey all,
Thanks for all the suggestions. I checked out vinyl poultry fencing, but the diameter of the holes is a little big. I think I have found out what it is. It is called windbreaker mesh or rockshield mesh. I found it in the UK but not in the US. If you google those two you can see what they look like. I have found some tree guard or hardware mesh that is on the web but Lowes or Home Depot doesn't sell the good stuff. When I find it, and I will, I will let everyone know. I did find some stuff that could be used as a substitute for Epi-Web. Gutter Stuff-Pro, or Gutter-Fill. It is a foam that is put into gutters to keep leaves out. Looks like Epi-Web when you get close. Here again it is difficult to find. Gutter installers usually have it. I believe it is all made out of PET plastic, the same stuff Epi-Web is made of. Bascically recycled plastic bottles.
Thanks,
Neil

jkofferdahl 04-28-2009 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowboys East (Post 218421)
Hey All,
Went to Lowes today and the vinyl gutter guard they have is a little to thin to mount orchids. It would work well if doubled up, but I wish I could find the stuff from the picture. I have sent out a few emails to overseas vendors (where I see this material used often), but nobody feels like sharing. I think it is still some type of gutter guard, just need to find one that is a little more heavy duty. Let me know if anyone finds such.
Thanks for the input,
Neil

I'd still suggest looking at hardware cloth. It's NOT cloth, by the way. Take a look here: http://www.unexco.com/hwrcloth.jpg for an example of the stuff. It comes in different mesh sizes, and rolls are usually 2 - 3 feet wide.

Cowboys East 04-28-2009 09:42 PM

Hey,
I went by Lowes again today and found something that might work. It is their tree guard vinyl mesh. Its green and rigid enough to mount orchids on. Not exactly what I am looking for, but if I can't get the stuff from the picture it will work. Lowes does have vinyl Hardware Cloth. It looks good as well and would work if doubled up. I think I might start a thread on materials people use to mount orchids.
Thanks,
Neil

phearamedusa 04-28-2009 10:54 PM

This may be off in left field, but has anybody thought of or used the material that humidifier/air filters are made of. It generally has lots of small "pores", might be available with larger pores. Kind of reminds me of "Scotch bright pads".
Just a thought.
Melanie

Cowboys East 04-28-2009 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by phearamedusa (Post 218816)
This may be off in left field, but has anybody thought of or used the material that humidifier/air filters are made of. It generally has lots of small "pores", might be available with larger pores. Kind of reminds me of "Scotch bright pads".
Just a thought.
Melanie

This whole thread is out of left field but I am having fun with it. I looked into the filter material, but couldn't find it in a basic form. The filters for my humidifier are expensive. I have used cork for so long and I love it as a mounting material. Since I have built my orchidarium I am looking for something that is more uniform to max out the space. Asthetics are out the window with me at this point. Besides, I like the look of Magnus's orchidarium. Neatly cut pieces of Epiweb. Where can I buy Epiweb anyway?
Neil

Jerry Delaney 04-29-2009 02:21 AM

Neil,
Try this web site.

Industrial Netting - Aquaculture

Doesn't Ray carry Epiweb?

Becca 04-29-2009 07:46 AM

Yep, Ray is the only person in the U.S. that is selling epiweb that I am aware of.


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