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King_of_orchid_growing:) 07-04-2008 02:03 AM

Growing Porpax.
 
I remembered someone on this forum had asked a question about how to grow Porpax meirax.

Now I don't know if the person still has it or not, but I've finally figured this plant out enough to know how to grow it properly.

A little background first...

I currently own Porpax ustulata and Porpax sp. Vietnam (which I beleive is Porpax elwesii). The first Porpax I've ever owned was Porpax fibuliformis. Needless to say, because of the very little info there is on Porpax I offed all the Porpax fibuliformis I've ever attempted. The next species attempted was Porpax sp. Vietnam (Porpax elwesii). I had purchased two colonies only to have one colony barely survive to this day. Of course the most recent Porpax species is Porpax ustulata, the one that would answer all the basic growing questions I've had about this group of unusual miniature orchids.

King_of_orchid_growing:) 07-04-2008 02:09 AM

First, what is a Porpax?

Orchids in the genus Porpax are a bunch of miniature plants belonging to the subfamily Epidendroideae, tribe Podochileae, and subtribe Eriinae (Jay Pfahl, Jay's Internet Orchid Encyclopedia). Simply put, they're related to Erias.

According to the pictures of Porpax (elwesii) in Jay's Internet Orchid Encyclopedia, they are epiphytes growing on the trunks of tree amongst moss and lithophytes on limestone rocks amongst moss.

King_of_orchid_growing:) 07-04-2008 02:32 AM

Physical description:

Stature: miniature

Pseudobulbs: Mature pseudobulbs are leafless and have a net-like covering around them. They're green and resemble a flattened green pea.

Leaves: Fully formed leaves are soft, green, and rounded with pore-like structures on the surface (use a jeweler's loupe to see this).

Roots: Short roots are a buff white in color and hairy, and emerge from underneath the pseudobulbs (not from the edges). They resemble moss.

Flowers: A general description of the flower type for the genus is as follows.

They resemble the head of a baby bird, is hairy, and are usually red with orange markings (color may vary for Porpax grandiflora).

Flowers bloom from the central leaf axil of new shoots (growths that haven't formed pseudobulbs yet). Usually one flower emerges but can have two.

# of pollina: 8

Fragrance: none

Growth habit: Sympodial, forming closely clustered matts.

King_of_orchid_growing:) 07-04-2008 02:53 AM

Lighting: shade to bright shade (Phalaenopsis bright)

Temperature Range: intermediate - warm, preferring intermediate

Humidity: 60% - 80% is adequate

Air circulation: moderate

Deciduous: Yes. After pseudobulbs mature.

Dormancy: Yes. Starts around late fall through mid spring.

Watering: Evenly moist while allowing to dry out between waterings during growing season. Water sparingly during dormancy, just enough to keep pseudobulbs from shriveling.

King_of_orchid_growing:) 07-04-2008 02:56 AM

Flowering season: Sporadically throughout growing season.

Media: Grow mounted with moss (tree fern, cork bark, or limestone rocks)

Note: New shoots grow from the edges of the "disk" and are usually bifoliate.

magev958 08-26-2008 03:06 PM

Thank you, that was very helpful. I just got my P. ustulat this evening and was googling it :-)

Royal 08-26-2008 04:27 PM

Jeez, just write an article.

professor plant 12-18-2011 08:52 PM

Thanks for all the info on what I have also found, is a rarely detailed orchid.

King_of_orchid_growing:) 12-18-2011 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by professor plant (Post 458223)
Thanks for all the info on what I have also found, is a rarely detailed orchid.

You're welcome.

Unfortunately they are extremely difficult to establish.

I have failed multiple times to grow them longer than 2 - 3 yrs.

The problem is that they almost always come in with a messed up root system and for them to re-establish that root system can be difficult. They don't grow a large amount of roots. There are probably less than 10 roots per pseudobulb, and the roots don't grow fast either.

They also require a decent amount of humidity.

This is a very trying species to get going. More often than not, the new shoots will somehow just rot out.

I have yet to figure out how to prevent this.

Once they establish and grow nicely, I can foresee them growing like weeds.

At the moment, they're still a poorly detailed group of plants. They are wonderful little miniatures if you can figure out a way to get them going for longer than 2 - 3 yrs.

theroc1217 08-27-2013 03:21 AM

I've got two of these on the way currently, I hope I can keep them alive. I was doing great with my Eria until the sunburn.

King_of_orchid_growing:) 08-27-2013 03:39 AM

Eria are sturdy once you get them established. Getting them established is unfortunately not easy considering that they are for the most part a relatively poorly documented group of plants in terms of culture. They also grow a bit slow, but not too slow as to make them overly frustrating to grow. Slowest to grow are the roots, which almost always look messed up. Of what I've seen so far, (and this could change with time), each pseudobulb does not have a whole lot of roots on them.

Porpax are even more poorly documented.

For me to grow any Porpax species for about 2 - 3 years was amazing, imo, given that each species I've grown, I've only attempted to grow once or twice at most. And add to that, the ridiculously sparse information that is readily available there is about cultivating them properly.

theroc1217 08-27-2013 03:44 AM

The sellers included culture information at my request, I'll see what they say. I'm rebuying an Eria globifera, making sure to keep it out of direct sun this time. It had put out 3 growths from a single bulb in the first year I had it, so I hope this newer plant is just as vigorous.

I've been scouring the web for information from people who have grown porpax, so hopefully I can get them established.

Island Girl 08-31-2013 03:28 AM

@ theroc1217, I hope you will post pics when u get it in... B/c king, I've just fallen in love with a whole new genus! These are so cool looking, and I love a challenge, but should, and will, wait to grow this one another time! But, they are really really cool to see!! Thanks for sharing all this info!!! It is priceless, I'm sure, to those trying to grow these!

Akhenaten 05-12-2019 10:41 AM

Two days ago I received Porpax ustulata in good condition.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/FY...=w984-h1245-no

I remember that King_of_orchid_growing:) said: "Porpax don't like moss". I removed him from moss and added on the cork slab with polliculosum colonies.


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/xl...=w1400-h678-no

King_of_orchid_growing:) 05-12-2019 12:51 PM

If you look at photos of them growing in the wild, the second photo you posted is pretty close to how they grow.

Bulbopedilum 05-12-2019 05:24 PM

This is very cool, but where do you guys actually get them?

Also, this isnt related to their culture, but why do they have that fancy "sheath" around their pseudobulbs?

King_of_orchid_growing:) 05-12-2019 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bulbopedilum (Post 896112)
This is very cool, but where do you guys actually get them?

Not sure who has them available right now. For you, you'd have to find a source from Indo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bulbopedilum (Post 896112)
Also, this isnt related to their culture, but why do they have that fancy "sheath" around their pseudobulbs?

I don't know.

Akhenaten 05-12-2019 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_of_orchid_growing:) (Post 896106)
If you look at photos of them growing in the wild, the second photo you posted is pretty close to how they grow.

Thank you :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bulbopedilum (Post 896112)
This is very cool, but where do you guys actually get them?

My Porpax come from Asia. But I saw them in Elsner, in Popow, from Germany.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bulbopedilum (Post 896112)
Also, this isnt related to their culture, but why do they have that fancy "sheath" around their pseudobulbs?

This is a feature of the species. Why cats don't have horns?

Akhenaten 08-02-2019 09:02 PM

My Porpax today in the middle of raft :)
https://i.ibb.co/Ct0BzsW/DSC-2912.jpg

And a lot of polliculosum's growths

King_of_orchid_growing:) 08-02-2019 09:29 PM

Yup, that's pretty much how they grow in the wild. If you pull up pics of them in-situ, that's what it would look like.

Good job!

Akhenaten 08-02-2019 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_of_orchid_growing:) (Post 899875)
Good job!

Thank you :blushing:

Bulbopedilum 08-02-2019 10:03 PM

Wow! That is a very nice display. My B. ayuthayense's growth is still very small...

Akhenaten 08-03-2019 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bulbopedilum (Post 899877)
Wow! That is a very nice display. My B. ayuthayense's growth is still very small...

Thank you :)

KennyS 07-29-2020 12:42 PM

Are they still doing well? The setup looked great!

Akhenaten 08-04-2020 09:59 AM

Meanwhile in a galaxy far far away...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0

DirtyCoconuts 08-04-2020 10:22 AM

WOW!!!

that is pure alien insanity!!

i am almost frightened

KennyS 08-04-2020 06:18 PM

This looks awesome! Thanks for sharing.


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