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3rdMaestro 01-16-2023 02:24 PM

Homemade Fertilizer?
 
Before I ask this question, let me say that I know this won’t be as effective as something made by a company. But I was curious, can you make your own orchid fertilizer out of common household products and groceries in a pinch? And to be clear, I’m referring to fertilizer, not necessarily home remedies for pests and sickness. Let me know what you think!

Toadwally 01-16-2023 02:32 PM

Pond in our backyard serves important source of orchid water for much of the year

Worm castings from layered composter serve as an addition year round.

estación seca 01-16-2023 03:00 PM

No, you may not pee on your orchids.

jcec1 01-16-2023 03:26 PM

Fertiliser is cheap and buying it means I know what's in it - I wouldn't bother with trying these homebrew concoctions

Dimples 01-16-2023 05:10 PM

In terms of supplying adequate and complete (or near complete) nutrition to plants, no. Unless you’re going to use urine - but that’s best used for outdoor in-ground plants. Worm castings are about as close as you could get (they’re also best used for in-ground plants) but they are still not going to be able to supply everything your plants need in the quantity or ratio required over the long term.

Compost supplies minimal nutrients, it’s a beneficial soil amendment that can help any nutrients you apply hang around in the soil for longer, but most of the nutrients in the feed stocks are used up by the microbes during the composting process. Good for soil texture, water holding, adding air, and some other things, but compost itself isn’t a fertilizer.

All the videos and “hacks” you see online about soaking or boiling food waste in water are not based on facts. You can’t break complex molecules into their building blocks that easily. If it was possible, the world wouldn’t have a food waste problem and farms wouldn’t need to import fertilizer materials. I wish it was true, but it’s not.

Dusty Ol' Man 01-16-2023 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by estación seca (Post 997953)
No, you may not pee on your orchids.

:rofl:

isurus79 01-16-2023 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jcec1 (Post 997956)
Fertiliser is cheap and buying it means I know what's in it - I wouldn't bother with trying these homebrew concoctions

I agree

tmoney 01-16-2023 10:43 PM

my grandma used to grow houseplants, which is how i got into the hobby. she didn’t fertilize, per se, but she would put sugar water on her plants every now and then. that’s what i did for a long time then as well, but found that i would get white fuzzy mold on the soil surface. so, i don’t do that anymore, even tho the mold seemed harmless to the plants. not sure how effective sugar water is....

to be frank, i am in the middle of a severe fertilizer doubt period for phals....not sure how effective any of them are!

3rdMaestro 01-16-2023 11:07 PM

I figured most home hacks were fake. That’s why I asked. I’m still looking for proper orchid fertilizer here but I suppose you could use any plant fertilizer so long as it’s properly diluted, no?

Dimples 01-16-2023 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tmoney (Post 997961)
i am in the middle of a severe fertilizer doubt period for phals....not sure how effective any of them are!

I’ve had excellent results with Dyna Gro FP and giving my phals light levels and temperatures at the top of their desired ranges. I’ve got spikes on all but one phal (20-ish), with a few double spikes, and a ridiculous amount of branching on almost all of them. I’d say it’s extremely effective if the plants have suitable growing conditions. Have you tried it?

Louis_W 01-17-2023 12:11 AM

I reccomend having a look at Rays website, there is a lot of informatiom there and he sells a good orchid specific fertilizer called K-lite. Heres a link

K-Lite Orchid / Epiphyte Fertilizer › First Rays LLC

3rdMaestro 01-17-2023 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Louis_W (Post 997964)
I reccomend having a look at Rays website, there is a lot of informatiom there and he sells a good orchid specific fertilizer called K-lite. Heres a link

K-Lite Orchid / Epiphyte Fertilizer › First Rays LLC

I used to use K-Lite. But does he ship internationally?

Ray 01-17-2023 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tmoney (Post 997961)
to be frank, i am in the middle of a severe fertilizer doubt period for phals....not sure how effective any of them are!

If you put together Maslow's Hierarchy of Orchid Needs, you would find fertilizer to be pretty low. All plants need a regular supply of nutrients, especially nitrogen, but not a lot.

Another way to look at it is analogous to an ignition key. In the entire scheme of things, it is a small part, but without it, your Ferrari ain't goin' nowhere.

estación seca 01-17-2023 11:12 AM

Plants use fertilizer to grow. Plants grow when conditions are correct: Temperature, light, water, humidity. If those are not correct plants hardly grow and don't use fertilizer. Improving growing conditions is far more important than fertilizer for growing plants.

tmoney 01-17-2023 12:45 PM

ahh, didn’t notice you were on this side of the pond. perhaps you could try schwerter orchideen here in germany. we use whatever ferts we have on hand, but most of the time we use their premixed formula for fertilizing. it’s not overly expensive and i th8nk you could get it shipped there.

otherwise, i wouldn’t put anything on them. what’s your water supply like? if it’s decent water, just give it to them and forget about fertilizing for a year and assess the results

Clawhammer 01-17-2023 04:00 PM

I use my fish tank waterchange water on my orchids when I am motivated or its convenient, but this is in addition to my regular fert routine (25ppm N every watering except Dec-Jan).


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