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RJSquirrel 07-11-2022 08:36 AM

Sunset Valley Orchids Catasetinae Plant Offering
 
Sunset Valley Orchids - Superior Hybrids for Orchid Enthusiasts

just hit my email thought I would share. Hes got my attention..

Mad Squirrel in the greenhouse alert!! Make room!! :waving

SVO8190 - 3inch Cl. Rebecca Northen
SVO9592 - 3inch Cyc. cooperi
SVO9598 - 3inch Cyc. Cygnus Atratus
SVO9941 - 3inch Galeandra greenwoodiana
SVO9951 - 3inch Cl. NEW HYBRID (Cl. thylaciochila 'Wide Petals' x Cl. russelliana 'SVO')
SVO10011 3inch Ctsm. Jamie Lawson XOXO



:) weee

My Green Pets 07-11-2022 10:24 AM

thanks RJ, some amazing stuff in there as always.

isurus79 07-11-2022 12:41 PM

I just went through the list and there is some cool stuff!

orchidman77 07-11-2022 07:00 PM

I've never grown Catasetum-types, but I couldn't resist purchasing a Cycnoches cooperi! Also picked up a few Cattleyas I resisted on my last order....

David

Louis_W 07-11-2022 08:49 PM

I would so love to Rebecca Northen and cooperii but I have been on a catasetinae killing spree lately... very hard to resist though..

mook1178 07-12-2022 03:28 PM

Just placed an order for the Ctsm vinaceum x iavane and the Ctmds Dragons Tail x Ctsm Susan Fuchs

RJSquirrel 07-12-2022 05:17 PM

:). we can have race to the blooms..

mine are on the way..if you hurried yours might be too!!

mook1178 07-12-2022 05:45 PM

The race is on.

Fred emailed and said I should expect them next Wednesday

RJSquirrel 07-12-2022 06:50 PM

Ive only ever had one of them but it was easy to grow and bloom. Easy to over water and kill too when its dormant.

I think I learned something last time..

We shall see :) good luck!!!

post pics of plants. we like them too

amber.leigh 07-12-2022 08:41 PM

I had been looking for Cyc. warscewiczii 'OMG Giant' x 'SVO Jumbo Super' for 2 years!! So excited.

Also got some Cooperi, Cygnus Atratus, the other warscewiczii, Ctsm. Susan Fuchs 'Burgundy Chips' FCC/AOS x Ctsm. ivaneae 'Purple Fantasy', Ctmds. Darkonium 'Base Element' x Ctsm. Susan Fuchs 'Burgundy Chips', and Cl. thylaciochila 'Wide Petals' x Cl. russelliana 'SVO'.

Catts love me but I killed the 2 cycnoches seedlings and catasetum I got from Fred last year. Help!! I grow indoors in Florida and under grow lights. I didn't repot the seedlings and the moss was tight. Wondering if that was my issue. I grow all the rest of my orchids in clay so tossing around whether to try kiwi bark or some fresh moss.

I watch some of you guys on YouTube and just now becoming active on OrchidBoard!! :)

estación seca 07-12-2022 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by amber.leigh (Post 989539)
Help!! I grow indoors in Florida and under grow lights.

Welcome to the Orchid Board!

This group of orchids has completely different growing requirements from other orchids. If you treat these like other orchids they will not last a year. Go to SVO and look at the cultural information section at the top.

Roberta 07-12-2022 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by amber.leigh (Post 989539)
I had been looking for I had been looking for Cyc. warscewiczii 'OMG Giant' x 'SVO Jumbo Super' for 2 years!! So excited.

Also got some Cooperi, Cygnus Atratus, the other warscewiczii, Ctsm. Susan Fuchs 'Burgundy Chips' FCC/AOS x Ctsm. ivaneae 'Purple Fantasy', Ctmds. Darkonium 'Base Element' x Ctsm. Susan Fuchs 'Burgundy Chips', and Cl. thylaciochila 'Wide Petals' x Cl. russelliana 'SVO'.

Catts love me but I killed the 2 cycnoches seedlings and catasetum I got from Fred last year. Help!! I grow indoors in Florida and under grow lights. I didn't repot the seedlings and the moss was tight. Wondering if that was my issue. I grow all the rest of my orchids in clay so tossing around whether to try kiwi bark or some fresh moss.

I watch some of you guys on YouTube and just now becoming active on OrchidBoard!! :)

These need to be sopping wet during the growing season, so sphagnum is an excellent medium at least until they get big. And don't worry about crowded pot... they can grow well even climbing out of the pot. BUT you absolutely must respect their dormancy. While dormant, they need zero water. I know it sounds cruel, but that is exactly what they need. They need moderately warm... not below 55 deg F, they don't care about light one way or another. And don't start watering until those new roots are 3-4 inches long and the leaves of the new growth have started to spread out. (When they start to sprout, put your hands in your pockets so that you are not tempted to reach for the watering can) When in active growth they need lots of water, fertilizer, and light because they grow so fast you can almost watch them get bigger. Follow ES' advice... go the the SVO website and read the culture notes. And read the notes in the Catasetinae forum, which contain answers to all the FAQs and help you fine-tune the general advice on the SVO site. If you try to grow them like other orchids, they become compost very fast.

amber.leigh 07-12-2022 10:11 PM

Yes, thank you. I've read as much as I can get my hands on about them. I gave them their winter rest and did not start watering again until the roots on the new growths were 4 inches.

The moss in their original pots just got so hard that I was wondering if that was the issue? I have another warscewiczii that I just re-potted in some moss but tried to keep it loose while still secure.

I was not aware that they should be sopping wet during growing season though. Tough to think of when I'm rotting them.

Roberta 07-12-2022 10:13 PM

Any repotting you do, should be during dormancy. Once those new roots start growing you don't want to disturb them. If they are getting totally out of hand, you can gently slip the plant out of the pot, drop into a bigger pot, and fill in with more sphagnum without disturbing roots. Plastic pots are good because they retain moisture well. Once the plants get bigger (and top heavy) clay can be useful for the weight. I also use plastic bulb pans - much wider than high. Again, the extra-wide footprint helps with the top-heavy tendency.

isurus79 07-13-2022 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by amber.leigh (Post 989546)
The moss in their original pots just got so hard that I was wondering if that was the issue?

The moss definitely turns into a brick! I like to soak mine in a bowl of water for a few hours to kick off the growing season. Otherwise it can be tough to rehydrate the brick after no water for a few months!

amber.leigh 07-13-2022 08:55 AM

Maybe that was my issue... it's possible I thought they rotted from too much water but maybe I just didn't water them enough 🤔

RJSquirrel 07-13-2022 01:38 PM

had a few spit on me at the shows. Yuck what was that!!? It was a pollen sac that got launched onto my face!!!

keep your distance from the flowers :)

Roberta 07-13-2022 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RJSquirrel (Post 989579)
had a few spit on me at the shows. Yuck what was that!!? It was a pollen sac that got launched onto my face!!!

keep your distance from the flowers :)

If you get close, be sure you are wearing glasses... no joke to get one stuck to your cornea. And once they launch their payload the flowers fade quickly. If I take one to an orchid club meeting, it is done knowing that I am sacrificing the flowers because most of the pollinia get jostled loose in the transport process.

RJSquirrel 07-13-2022 02:34 PM

safety glasses indeed. good idea!!! :)

they fight back sometimes and do beat ya up on occasion.

Roberta 07-13-2022 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RJSquirrel (Post 989583)
safety glasses indeed. good idea!!! :)

they fight back sometimes and do beat ya up on occasion.

If it is somebody else's plant, the attack is well-deserved since it trashes the flower. If it's your own plant, oh well...
Once the flowers start to age, they trigger themselves... I bring them inside to enjoy when they first open, then have to scrape pollinia off the floor once they get to that stage.

Leisesturm 07-14-2022 12:01 AM

Someone asked for pictures? This Cycnodes 'Wine Delight' is one of Fred's plants, but not from any recent vintage. Mr. Clarke gave a talk at the Staten Island Orchid Society. Photo metadata says 'taken Feb 2000', so I must have acquired the just out of dormancy p-bulbs at the presentation some months earlier in Spring/Summer 1999.

I only got the one plant. Other than some Phal's, I was still mainly a cultivator of locally available tropical houseplants. Given the fact that I was growing it out in a Lower Manhattan office building, blooming it was quite the surprise. It even threw a second spike for me, first time out. That kind of beginners luck started a love affair with these species and Intergenerics that has weathered my very long time away from anything green or growing.

Currently I am growing out a badly sunburned Monnineara 'Midnight Magic' in a mini greenhouse that hates plants. The p-bulbs are putting on size despite the significant reduction is leaf surface area. Fingers crossed.

P.S. That ?? 'Nuclear Fallout' (can't see the page right now) that has been crossed with something else in one of the early listings looks amazing! I am considering ordering one of the crosses, but does anyone know if the 'NF' is available as a standalone grex?

Roberta 07-14-2022 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Leisesturm (Post 989616)

Currently I am growing out a badly sunburned Monnineara 'Midnight Magic' in a mini greenhouse that hates plants. The p-bulbs are putting on size despite the significant reduction is leaf surface area. Fingers crossed.

P.S. That ?? 'Nuclear Fallout' (can't see the page right now) that has been crossed with something else in one of the early listings looks amazing! I am considering ordering one of the crosses, but does anyone know if the 'NF' is available as a standalone grex?

One of the special charms of Catasetinae is that they reinvent themselves every year. Toasted leaves are soon forgotten. (As opposed to toasted Cattleya or Phalaenopsis leaves that you have to look at for years after)

If you're interested in one of the parents of a listed cross, send Fred an email and inquire. Occasionally he will sell divisions of some of his stud plants.

RJSquirrel 07-14-2022 02:14 AM

hes got some $1000 divisions here when ya feeling really good :)

Sunset Valley Orchids - Superior Hybrids for Orchid Enthusiasts

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Leisesturm 07-14-2022 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RJSquirrel (Post 989619)
hes got some $1000 divisions here when ya feeling really good :)

That is way above the $150.00 threshold for purchase without CFO approval. Not happening. I will have to get my buzz some other (legal) way.

Roberta 07-14-2022 11:36 AM

Hey, the divisions aren't ALL $1000... Lots of others that would not break the bank.

estación seca 07-14-2022 12:14 PM

There are also lots and lots of Cattleya alliance divisions.

Leisesturm 07-14-2022 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by estación seca (Post 989636)
There are also lots and lots of Cattleya alliance divisions.

Earlier post deleted due to high thread hijack potential. Please disregard.

itzi 07-19-2022 10:24 PM

Did anybody get " Ctsm. vinaceum 'SVO' HCC/AOS x Ctsm. ivaneae 'Purple Fantasy' "? Freds notes about a possible purple bloom has me really curious. Hopefully someone can post them here one day!

Roberta 07-20-2022 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by itzi (Post 989941)
Did anybody get " Ctsm. vinaceum 'SVO' HCC/AOS x Ctsm. ivaneae 'Purple Fantasy' "? Freds notes about a possible purple bloom has me really curious. Hopefully someone can post them here one day!

Fred does some wonderfully creative crosses. These are both unusual species... I saw a photo of Ctsm ivaneae 'Purple Fantasy' and its' really dark. A good chance of purple...

mook1178 07-20-2022 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by itzi (Post 989941)
Did anybody get " Ctsm. vinaceum 'SVO' HCC/AOS x Ctsm. ivaneae 'Purple Fantasy' "? Freds notes about a possible purple bloom has me really curious. Hopefully someone can post them here one day!

I picked one up.

RJSquirrel 07-20-2022 12:42 PM

nice , look at that someone got the plant. they should be arriving today if you ordered last week. they were sent monday .

benefits of starting all over fresh..., you know what you want this time..:)

mook1178 07-20-2022 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RJSquirrel (Post 989960)
nice , look at that someone got the plant. they should be arriving today if you ordered last week. they were sent monday .

benefits of starting all over fresh..., you know what you want this time..:)

Unfortunately, there is a delay in shipping. I am a bit worried with the heat wave.

RJSquirrel 07-20-2022 05:24 PM

stuck in memphis. we might need some salad dressing n croutons :(

Roberta 07-20-2022 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RJSquirrel (Post 989979)
stuck in memphis. we might need some salad dressing n croutons :(

Here's hoping that they are in an air-conditioned warehouse! With A/C they will be safe from the heat wave.

RJSquirrel 07-20-2022 05:31 PM

people being delayed also. runways are popping up from the heat. its hot. Im used to Texas heat and Im hot. Its hot all over.

amber.leigh 07-20-2022 06:30 PM

They're here!!!!
 
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RJSquirrel 07-20-2022 08:09 PM

good looking plants as always from SVO :)

impressive!!

itzi 07-20-2022 09:28 PM

Yay!! My one cooperi feels a little lonely now.. But I'm still very happy. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...720_124713.jpg

isurus79 07-20-2022 09:35 PM

Those plants look good!

orchidman77 07-20-2022 09:59 PM

My shipment is also delayed, and my fingers are also crossed that they come in tomorrow! I only got the cooperi from this new list but I did also get 4 other Cattleya hybrids.

David


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