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RoseSD 11-11-2021 07:42 PM

Difficult Miltoniopsis
 
I have personally found Miltoniopsis the most difficult orchid to please. Their bulbs split leaves, their flowers last short time, and bud blast happened randomly. Please share your secret in keeping yours healthy and happy.

estación seca 11-11-2021 08:48 PM

Don't buy them. They only do well in a narrow range of conditions. If you have proper conditions they're easy.

Ray 11-11-2021 09:43 PM

… and that can be said for any orchid. They are “niche plants”, after all.

Roberta 11-11-2021 10:03 PM

People in warm climates say that Miltoniopsis are cool growers. Those with chilly nights say that Miltoniopsis are warm growers... That should give a clue, what they are is "fussy narrow range" growers. So if you have conditions where it is never colder than 50 deg F (10 deg C) and never warmer than 80 deg F (27 deg C) they will grow well. Most of us have a problem with one end of the temperature spectrum or the other, or both. They also like high humidity/never dry out, moderate light. They are beautiful, but there are so many orchids that are more forgiving, I no longer buy these, I can't keep them happy.

RoseSD 11-11-2021 10:47 PM

I haven't killed any orchids but a Miltoniopsis (maybe one more coming?) that was sold to me as Miltonia. In fact I still can't figure out how their names are decided after hybridization. I am glad I am not alone in finding them difficult. Thanks.

estación seca 11-11-2021 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray (Post 972696)
… and that can be said for any orchid. They are “niche plants”, after all.

I think Miltoniopsis are far less tolerant of less-than-ideal environmental conditions than are most other orchids grown by hobbyists.

SADE2020 11-12-2021 12:36 AM

This is a Miltoniosis ???


https://i.imgur.com/H5NpYoa.jpg

Roberta 11-12-2021 12:38 AM

It is, indeed. And it looks like you have managed to meet its requirements, it looks quite happy. Congratulations! It is beautiful!

RoseSD 11-12-2021 12:46 AM

I got mine in buds, they did flower and when flowers went, the plant went downhills fast...

RoseSD 11-12-2021 05:25 PM

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Need your advice.
Does this one still have a Good Chance of recovery?
The half opened bud browned and will die soon, while the old spike died out really fast within two weeks?
What should I do to help her?

Roberta 11-12-2021 05:53 PM

Can't see much of the plant, but what I can see seems quite healthy. The lifetime of flowers and buds on a newly-acquired plant doesn't say much about the health of the plant - flowers and buds in general tend to be very sensitive to changes in environment, that are inevitable when a plant goes from wholesaler to store, or gets shipped from the vendor.

The leaves look a bit dark for a Miltoniopsis... those tend to be rather light green. So it may not have been receiving sufficient light, either when it came to you, or under your care. But can't tell much from the photo, it may just be the lighting.

RoseSD 11-12-2021 06:16 PM

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My bad.
Pls see these new ones.
Are the yellowing foliage all "old"? Are they not sick?

Roberta 11-12-2021 06:18 PM

Those just look like old leaves to me. Force of nature. Older leaves, and even the small bottom leaves of newer ones just do that.

SADE2020 11-16-2021 09:48 PM

Now that I know what is a Miltoniosis for sure ..hahaha my doubtful due to always confusing Miltonia o Miltoniosis, however for me in the culture there are not much different.

They have up's and down with no reason. But when I see them down (yellow leaves on the bottom or onion types of layers), 1) cut the spikes. 2) Move them from one pot to other with out actually touching the roots, is more like a refresh and move the bottom than messing around the roots. 3) Cutoff running too much water (no bath or leaving water under a plate or pot holder); watering fast any time is need it and a little fertilizer every 15 days, so I keep the roots always humid (no damp) and 5) give it more light than to a phal, bright shaded light that don't transmit heat. They are very sensitive to the heat.

RoseSD 11-16-2021 10:43 PM

Sadly, I did find a psudobulb out of 2 turning brown inside out. That's why flowers are dropping. It is a bye bye...

BobcatJohnson 11-16-2021 11:19 PM

I have had success getting a Miltoniopsis to regrow from just one bulb after the rest had rotted off. May take a while but worth the effort if you really like the plant.

RoseSD 11-19-2021 07:13 PM

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Sadly, another miltonia having buds gone before fully opened... This one also looks fine otherwise though, unlike the previous one.

Shadeflower 11-19-2021 08:09 PM

the reason these might be a bit harder is also the condition they get sold in.
The media is cheap rubbish that needs to be replaced, the roots are usually already damaged, a bulb rotting doesn't surprise me. I would remove both of them and give them a really good rinse under the shower. Imagine you are washing some hair that has brown gunk stuck to them that needs to be washed off. I really get into the cracks and crevices. Obviously you try not to damage any roots but the degrading material around the bulbs needs to be removed as a main priority with these. Otherwise you can't get it wet and as soon as you do you think oh no I have overwatered my orchid.
But they need water, it's all the rotting stuff left stuck to the bottom of the bulbs that is the problem, once it gets wet it starts to rot which then spreads on to the bulbs

RoseSD 11-19-2021 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadeflower (Post 973375)
the reason these might be a bit harder is also the condition they get sold in.
The media is cheap rubbish that needs to be replaced, the roots are usually already damaged, a bulb rotting doesn't surprise me. I would remove both of them and give them a really good rinse under the shower. Imagine you are washing some hair that has brown gunk stuck to them that needs to be washed off. I really get into the cracks and crevices. Obviously you try not to damage any roots but the degrading material around the bulbs needs to be removed as a main priority with these. Otherwise you can't get it wet and as soon as you do you think oh no I have overwatered my orchid.
But they need water, it's all the rotting stuff left stuck to the bottom of the bulbs that is the problem, once it gets wet it starts to rot which then spreads on to the bulbs

Thanks. I will do that soon. I hope they are at least resilient upon a good cleaning. Neither of them has new growth though. I hope it isn't a big problem.

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Originally Posted by SADE2020 (Post 973120)
Now that I know what is a Miltoniosis for sure ..hahaha my doubtful due to always confusing Miltonia o Miltoniosis, however for me in the culture there are not much different.

They have up's and down with no reason. But when I see them down (yellow leaves on the bottom or onion types of layers), 1) cut the spikes. 2) Move them from one pot to other with out actually touching the roots, is more like a refresh and move the bottom than messing around the roots. 3) Cutoff running too much water (no bath or leaving water under a plate or pot holder); watering fast any time is need it and a little fertilizer every 15 days, so I keep the roots always humid (no damp) and 5) give it more light than to a phal, bright shaded light that don't transmit heat. They are very sensitive to the heat.

I tried 2, 3, and 5 already and still see no improvement. I even transferred them to slotted pots for improved drainage.
May I ask why you cut off spike when seeing bottom leaf turned yellow? Aren't they supposed to being the oldest foliage?


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