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Zoizikid 07-16-2020 07:41 AM

Part 1 Oncidium collection
 
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Some of my favorite of my oncidium intergenetics orchids.

Keysguy 07-16-2020 07:53 AM

Nice.
The last one looks like an Encyclia.

WaterWitchin 07-16-2020 07:54 AM

That's a nice group of blooms! You sure have a lot of pinks going on there!! Do you have the name for #4 picture?

Zoizikid 07-16-2020 09:24 AM

The last one is an epidendrum floribundum but i wanted to add this in this post anyway :D do you think is an encyclia?

1. Wilsonara Kolibri
2. Bratonia Verona
3. No id
4. Tropic Lily Ice Palace (not sure for this one)
5. Vuylstekeara Melissa Brianne 'Dark'
6. Colmanara Golden Fairy
7. Beallara Peggy Ruth Carpenter "Jem"
8. Lagerara Angel Baby 'Pepermint Stick'
9. Brassada Orange delight
10. Epidendrum Floribundum (not sure for this one)

DeaC 07-16-2020 10:16 AM

Yum! Well grown and lovely to admire.Great variety.

WaterWitchin 07-16-2020 10:24 AM

Yeah, #4.... I looked up pictures, and I'm not sure either. Sure is a beauty though! I'm very fond of Beallara, so that would make sense though.

Zoizikid 07-16-2020 10:38 AM

I also love beallaras. from 74 intergenetics I own the 15 out of them are beallaras. I really enjoy the huge flowers and how fast growing the are!! I forgot to write beallara thought. I also asked to the nursery when i was there but they didn't had an answer. I look to the e shop that they selling their plants, and found that ID which looks indeed like the plant i own. But maybe its just a commercial name. Beauty and vigorous anyway love it :D

Dollythehun 07-16-2020 11:08 AM

I actually would have guessed #10 as some sort of dendrobium except, the flowers look like encyclia.

WaterWitchin 07-16-2020 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoizikid (Post 929445)
I also love beallaras. from 74 intergenetics I own the 15 out of them are beallaras. I really enjoy the huge flowers and how fast growing the are!! I forgot to write beallara thought. I also asked to the nursery when i was there but they didn't had an answer. I look to the e shop that they selling their plants, and found that ID which looks indeed like the plant i own. But maybe its just a commercial name. Beauty and vigorous anyway love it :D

It's also nice that the flowers last quite awhile. I may be telling you something you already know, but I didn't for a long time. Beallara are also called Aliceara. If you already know that, move along, nothing to see here. :biggrin:

Zoizikid 07-16-2020 01:50 PM

For what i know the crosses are like that:
Beallara: Brassia Miltonia Cochlioda Odontoglossum
Aliceara: Brassia Miltonia Oncidium

Most of the times I also check the parents tree of every hybrid (if registered) to find out where it belongs. But I am a little bit of nerd with onomatology. :P

SouthPark 07-16-2020 05:12 PM

Fantastic display! Thanks for posting those photos! Intergeneric ------ but I guess it is intergenetic too!!

Keysguy 07-16-2020 11:13 PM

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10. Epidendrum Floribundum (not sure for this one)
I'm happy to be wrong but the plant itself doesn't look like floribundum to me. Sometimes it's hard to tell in a picture but the plant, with that kind of elongating tubular pseudobulb, looks Encyclia like to me as does the flower. Now, that being said, as you say you have mostly intergenerics, it may very well be an Epicyclia because there are some beauties.
If you go search here for Epicyclia Serena O'Neill, you'll see what I mean. Because it's mine! :biggrin:

Diane56Victor 07-17-2020 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoizikid (Post 929470)
For what i know the crosses are like that:
Beallara: Brassia Miltonia Cochlioda Odontoglossum
Aliceara: Brassia Miltonia Oncidium

Most of the times I also check the parents tree of every hybrid (if registered) to find out where it belongs. But I am a little bit of nerd with onomatology. :P

I like to do that too. Interesting to see what goes into some hybrids. Any information can help with the type of care a plant might prefer if you can find out the percentages of its heritage.

WaterWitchin 07-18-2020 09:34 AM

I don't get into it that much. Just not my jam.When I got my first Beallara I researched just enough to be dangerous and took the first couple of bits as gospel.
Travaldo's blog site: Beallara orchid also called as Aliceara, the nothogenus for intergeneric hybrids between the orchid genera Brassia, Cochlioda, Miltonia and Odontoglossum. To achieve this cross breeders usually cross Miltassia (Miltonia x Brassia) with Odontodia (Odontoglossum x Cochlioda).
AOS: Beallara (bee-ul-AH-rah) A former hybrid genus derived from Brassia, Cochlioda, Miltonia and Odontoglossum, it was created in 1970 and named after Beall's Nursery. With the reorganization of the Onciidinae, this hybrid genus now becomes Aliceara.
I think Beallara, now Aliceara, are synonymous. And I don't have the patience to keep up with all the naming, renaming those silly taxonomists run around doing. It messes up my labels and spreadsheet. I have little patience for it.

estación seca 07-18-2020 12:08 PM

Odontoglossum was lumped into Oncidium. A lot of genera were caved out of Oncidium. Ada was partly merged into Brassia.

Zoizikid 07-18-2020 03:01 PM

Thank you for all answers.

I am aware of the changes of ononatology although i decided to keep the old ones. For instance Odontoglossum Crispum which has been turn to oncidium Alexandrae will not really be okey with oncidium care.
Of course someone could say that there is cool and warm oncidiums.. but personally i like the old names for now.

And yes it need some patient to looking into hybrids and genera tree but i just have fun of that. Trying to find percentages of every genus in the hybrid and adjust my care for them.

I also have only oncidiinae orchids so i get into deeper on them..

Diane56Victor 07-18-2020 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WaterWitchin (Post 929761)
I don't have the patience to keep up with all the naming, renaming those silly taxonomists run around doing. It messes up my labels and spreadsheet. I have little patience for it.

I hear you!
All I do now is just add in the new/latest name in brackets on my spreadsheet. The labels stay as they were when they came to my care.


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