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Frogwings 04-11-2020 02:18 PM

Cork mounted watering
 
Hello! I am new to growing mounted orchids. I have just purchased some miniature orchids, two of which are mounted on cork bark. I would like some information/advice on how to best water them. From my research on this, it is recommended that they be submerged in water for several hours. Misting everyday is another option. So, I am wondering if I can put the base of the cork bark into a container of water, just deep enough for the bottom of the cork to be submerged and wick water into the cork mount constantly. If the cork stays damp all the time, might this rot the roots? Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated!

DeaC 04-12-2020 11:38 AM

Hello. For me,cork has never worked. It doesn't have wicking properties so misting is needed or a dunk long enuf to benefit root health. I've soaked plants on cork long enuf to pry them off and repot or mount on treefern or wood,but it does set them back. :roll:

Frogwings 04-12-2020 11:53 AM

Thank you! I have thought about wicking using cotton string or sphagnum moss but I’m afraid it might keep the moss on the roots too wet. Like, sopping wet. I used cotton string on African violets and, after gauging thickness of string needed to supply the right amount of water, that worked well. BUT, maybe wouldn’t work in this instance. I might give it a try when I get up the nerve! Or, experiment with a cork base with no orchid on it. 🤔

Roberta 04-12-2020 12:28 PM

You can mist them (or give a good spraying with water) daily. One problem with dunking... you need a separate container for each. Using the same water for multiple plants can cause a problem (fungal, etc.) from spreading to one to another. Actually, "how often" is also a function of humidity... if high, you may be able to get away with every 2 days. It also depends on the plant - those with pseudobulbs or other reserves don't need it as often (like the Cattleya group) as those that don't (such as Pleurothallids)

The goal for all is to dry out between waterings - the goal for nearly all epiphytic orchids, whether mounted or in a pot. So look at what reserves the plant has - pseudobulbs, succulent leaves, etc. to get an idea of
what it will need.

Frogwings 04-12-2020 12:31 PM

Great input! Wicking is definitely out! Thank you!

Roberta 04-12-2020 01:13 PM

What specific plants? For the smaller Pleurothallids (which definitely don't have a lot of reserves) I put a little extra sphagnum moss over the root area (monofilament fish line works great for this). This helps keep them a bit more moist, for a few more hours, to compensate for the low humidity that they are likely to experience while still giving them the wet-dry experience.

Frogwings 04-12-2020 02:35 PM

Neophanetia falcata and Schoenorchis fragrans. I’m thinking of getting small table top terrariums for these. It would help keep the humidity higher.

Roberta 04-12-2020 02:47 PM

Neofinetia falcata is a really tough plant. So as long as you can keep the watering up, it should be fine. (And once the nights get consistently a little warmer (50 deg F or higher would be fine) , it can go outside - where you can just give it a good bath with the hose. (Those can go a lot colder, if acclimated, but I suspect that it might have been greenhouse-grown and need a little pampering) Schoenorchis fragrans might well benefit from that approach.

Out of curiosity... did those come from Andy's Orchids? Because if they did, particularly the Neo is already used to cool temperatures. (Growers in colder areas have to use greenhouses, which tend to be warmer, even for the relatively cool-growing species. Andy's, being in coastal California, grows a lot of the cool-tolerant orchids in unheated shade houses)

Frogwings 04-12-2020 05:31 PM

I bought them from J&L Orchids in Connecticut. Then they probably are used to some low temps. I have a covered screen porch that is protected on 2 sides. I might put them out there when it is warmer, but the temps get quite high out there. 90s. It will all be an”play it by ear” method! Thank you, Roberta, for your information! I definitely appreciate it!

Roberta 04-12-2020 06:00 PM

I think that the Neofinetia falcata can go outside once night temps get consistently above 50 deg F. The highs will be OK as long as there is shading. (Both of them are fairly low-light plants) But when it's hot, water more. I know a superb grower who lives inland from me, who is very successful with Neof. falcata, with summers that get into triple digits F and humidity is low, so I know they can take it.

The Schoenorchis needs a bit more pampering, I'm not as familiar with its needs.

Frogwings 04-13-2020 11:52 AM

Thank you Roberta! I need to research the requirements for the Schoenorchis a little more. I have just one more question that you will probably think weird, but: do you think orchids are sensitive to noise? I have mine on the counter in my kitchen where there is some clanging of pots and pans, although not often since I hate to cook! 😕

Roberta 04-13-2020 11:57 AM

I would greatly doubt that sound would be an issue for orchids - or for any plants. I can't imagine any way that noise could affect them. (I know some people play music to their plants, but any effect likely is that the people are calmed and therefore take better care of everything)

Frogwings 04-13-2020 12:00 PM

👍

rbarata 04-13-2020 12:13 PM

Your initial solution can be used easily with xaxim (that's the brasilian name, don't know the english translation, if there's any).

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It saves you from the hussle of watering/misting/whatever
daily.

You put the plaque inside a shallow pot or container with water which is wicked by the xaxim. It also creates a micro environment with the right humidity values.

Frogwings 04-13-2020 12:16 PM

I will check it out! Thank you!

rbarata 04-13-2020 12:23 PM

In my oppinion that your best option.

Frogwings 04-13-2020 12:33 PM

Checking that out, I found something called “Epiweb”. Have you heard of that?

rbarata 04-13-2020 01:02 PM

See this link. It seems xaxim has no translation.:)

I think you can use that.

wisdomseeker 04-13-2020 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbarata (Post 917005)
Your initial solution can be used easily with xaxim (that's the brasilian name, don't know the english translation, if there's any).

Tree fern mounts/plaques?

rbarata 04-13-2020 01:30 PM

Quote:

Tree fern mounts/plaques?
Similar or even the same thing. Xaxim is also the popular name in Brasil of the plant used to make the plaques: Dicksonia sellowiana

It has a good resistance to degradation but if the above mentioned material is non-degradable even better.

Orchid Whisperer 04-13-2020 05:20 PM

Yes, that is a tree fern

Frogwings 04-13-2020 06:43 PM

Cork mounted watering fertilizer
 
On another subject of learning, which orchid fertilizer do you recommend? And where do I find it?


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